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@jbtsax ...... all you have to do is come and stay with me. I will help you to meet people and to talk properly. I will welcome you home (to the mother country) and introduce you to some people that you will find quite wonderful.......
 
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I just waded through all the comments in this form!

I think i need to go to spec savers? Has that dog just dropped a brick/boulder that’s bounced off the grass???

And that photo of the Queen. Has 007 just apologised to the Queen , saying ‘It’s only a trump Mam!’
 
True, but the method that modern English choirs use is to go for Italianate pronunciation. Latin does live since it is still used by the Catholic church for official communications and there is a living tradition of it being spoken to the present day. But, we have no idea how true that is to what was spoken 1,800 years ago.

So, choirs use Italianate pronunciation where Caesar would be nearer to chay-zar, whereas classical Latin (as I was taught at school) would be pretty close to Kaiser (as in Kaiser Wilhelm) and Cicero (siss-err-oh) would be kick-err-oh.

As an early music specialist... you get big problems with how was Latin pronounced in C16th England or Germany? You only have to compare how Pope Benedict pronounces 'qu' in words like qui (who), quo (where) and -que ('and' suffix e.g. terra marique - by land and sea). We would saw kw-ee, kw-oh, kw-ay whereas he says k'vee, k'voh and k'vay.

I suspect there was a Italianate influence on Latin, as spoken by ancient Romans.

The Latin I was taught during the 1950s sounded ugly - lots of kick-er-oh and similar stuff. There was no "bounce" in the language the teachers spoke, which there certainly is in modern Italian.
 
Understand the British. Sheesh!

Scots , Welsh, Irish, English North or South. Yorkshire, Black Country, Cheshire, Scouse, Brummie, Asian, Afro Carribean, Old Polish, New Polish, Gypsies, New Age Travellers, Bikers, Ramblers Ex Bikers Mods, Pensioners
Baby Boomers, Pub culture, Drug culture, Activist, Not so active any more ists.........

Old Uncle Tom Cobbley and all.............

Looks like one of them lists in a song

I remember a joke about Yorkshire people, which contains more than a grain of truth:

Question: How do you define an Australian?

Answer: A Yorkshireman with a sun-tan.
 

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