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I have a Broadway stencil , made in Italy 1905 ish baritone , no one has ever heard of this stencil , can you shed some light ? Please JayI have been working on putting together a really comprehensive stencil listing for my website. When it is finished, close to 85% of the stencil names will be linked to horns in my gallery.
Before I go to all that linking work however, I was hoping I could get some input from members here to make sure that I didn't make any glaring errors or omissions.
By the time I was done with copy/paste/format etc the Excel tables into my website, I could easily have moved stuff into the wrong columns, or lost columns altogether. Now, I'm so blind by it all, I couldn't see an error if it jumped up and bit me in the ass.
The page can be found here on my website.
If you have a stencil horn not included in this list, please let me know. Thanks!
I have a Broadway stencil , made in Italy 1905 ish baritone , no one has ever heard of this stencil , can you shed some light ? Please Jay
Hi HelenI need a bit more to go on than the name and a country of origin Jay. There were quite a few saxophone manufacturers in Italy. Can you upload some photos or send them to me via email? If you don't want to upload an image of the serial #, please provide at least the first few digits of the number with the last few X'd out. Also, does the serial # start out with a letter?
I have been working on putting together a really comprehensive stencil listing for my website. When it is finished, close to 85% of the stencil names will be linked to horns in my gallery.
Before I go to all that linking work however, I was hoping I could get some input from members here to make sure that I didn't make any glaring errors or omissions.
By the time I was done with copy/paste/format etc the Excel tables into my website, I could easily have moved stuff into the wrong columns, or lost columns altogether. Now, I'm so blind by it all, I couldn't see an error if it jumped up and bit me in the ass.
The page can be found here on my website.
If you have a stencil horn not included in this list, please let me know. Thanks!
A friend of mine has a Pennsylvania tenor made by Yanigasawa. I can get you further details if it’s of interest to you.
I mentioned some time ago about a couple of horns I have one is a Lindell Tenor and the other is a Paul Cavour Tenor and was wondering if you have ever come across either of them
Hi Helen
Yeah I understand . Here’s some pics and the Bari is in a tech shop having work done on it and don’t have the serial number to hand but definitely doesn’t have a letter at the front of it.
Thank you very much. There were 6 in that list that I hadn't seen before. Now I have 6 more names to search for images of.@helen
Beaugnier definitely made a "Selmer Pennsylvania" alto.
I know this because... I'm a collector with a real weakness for Beaugniers and I've got an example of the above-named horn.
Additionally, here's a more complete list of Dorfler & Jorka stencils. Most of these are already covered by you, but a few aren't:-
- Boucet
- Carl Ludwig, Carl Schiller, Clinton, Convair, Condor
- De Villiers, Diamond
- H.Genet
- Impala
- Jubilee
- Key Tone, King Tempo
- La Sete Professional
- National
- Original Hopf Classic
- Pierre Maure Artiste, Paragon
- Rene Dumont, Rodgers, Roxy
- Senator, Startone, Skytone, Symphonic
- The National, Toneline Artist
- Velvetone, Vitacoustic, Voss
- Warner Concerto
Thank you very much. There were 6 in that list that I hadn't seen before. Now I have 6 more names to search for images of.
According to Günter Dullat - "Saxophone" ISBN 978-3-7959-0926-0 (The book is in German)
Page 137: a rough translation - Up to the beginning of the 1970's Yanagisawa built large quantities of stencils for Selmer >Pennsylvania< for Conn >Continental< and under the name >Martin<
No problem @helen. Incidentally, the "Selmer Pennsylvania" alto I've got is a stencil of a Beaugnier "Special Perfect". The design is identical to this, but obviously has different engraving:-
Beaugnier special perfect alto sax
@helen
Added to my list.
Another Beaugnier stencil for you is "Besson".
I've got one of these in my collection. Mine is a tenor in "two-tone" finish, and the design is identical to the Beaugnier "Special Perfect". Like all Beaugniers it's got a lovely sound.
It looks like this, apart from a different engraving. Note the distinctive bell-keys, which have a Selmer SBA vibe to them:-
Beaugnier Special Perfect Tenor Sax
@helen
I have a Kohlert 57 stencil alto in my collection. It's in "two-tone" finish and the engraving on the front of the bell says:-
Lafleur Artist Model
SOLE DISTRIBUTOR
Boosey & Hawkes
LONDON ENGLAND
FOREIGN
Often, the serial numbers on stencil horns aren't much use re. tracking down the year of production because they can be out of sync. However, when I compared the serial number on this horn to the offical list of Kohlert saxophone production, it came in at (you guessed it!) 1957 - which may or may not be just a coincidence. Whatever, here's a photo of mine:-
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Having done a careful comparison of my horn against other Winnenden-made Kohlerts, I can tell you that it's identical to this "real" Kohlert 57 alto. In short, everything matches. A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet:-
A "real" Kohlert 57 alto sax
I'm sure I've seen one a couple of times on eBay.de. But not been looking there for a long time.Has anyone seen, or better yet, own a Sky saxophone made by Dörfler & Jörka. Not a Skytone, but a Sky