Saxophones Grafton, who knows more about it?

.It will cost quite a bit more than the alto of course lots of people will buy into the novelty.

IMO the Alto costs over £100 more than it should based on the price of Jerichos (which are well over £100 cheaper) and other superior brass made instruments . £400 (more for fancy models) is a lot for a novelty horn which will never play as well as a "real" one .. I`d like one but can`t warrant spending anything near that on a novelty - even a transparent one to cover in LEDs .

I`d hate to think how much the tenor will cost .
 
Hi I've been there once and I've tried the vibrato sax. There should also be a video somewhere on YouTube. I liked it a lot but Grafton is a different beast 😉

There is one video on Youtube I know of:


I was struggling a bit with the intonation, but overall I found it very playable. I think it does have some advantages over metal saxophones, the lightness and possibly the maintenance.

It is in no way equivalent or comparable to a Grafton though.
 
I have been and I still am a critic of the whole vibratosax thing but I know that their production cost is and has to be higher than any Chinese made “ traditional” saxophone even being produced in Thailand, because if the labour costs are not higher than Taiwan or China, the injection molding start up cost, the polycarbonate and all the engineering costs are very high and would be very high anywhere in the world.

Their naivety was to think that they could make and sell this for 200$ (this was the original intention), which might have been the case in terms of production costs but didn’t include all the other costs which make a business ( and of course not only their costs but also the ones of their importers and distributors!)

In the end Vibratosax suffers of the same problems that affected the Grafton, which started its life wanting to be a very cheap saxophone but wasn’t able to deliver a saxophone, at the time, able to compete on price ( and image!) with other cheaper saxophones made in Italy, Bohemia, East Germany or Romania, which were, at the time, the equivalent of Taiwanese, Chinese and Vietnamese saxophones.

So Grafton was complex to make, costed more to make than a brass saxophone, was difficult to repair and never met the favor of the large public.

If Parker, Coleman, Bowie and others wouldn’t have played it we would only consider it a curiosity and an oddity.
 
Thank you Pete.
I also have the black one and the original case, can we deduct it was usually sold with two mouthpieces?

Danny
I don't know. I think we can deduct (deduce?) that at least the white one was included as this one has the same copper coloured finish on the ligature and cap as the Grafton keywork, so looks rather fine when on the horn.

dearman.webp
 
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deduct (deduce?)

You are an old-fashioned man! 😉

deduce, verb

from the observation of fossils, he deduced that the whole Earth had once been covered by water: conclude, come to the conclusion, reason, work out,gather, infer, draw the inference; extrapolate, glean, divine, intuit, come to understand, understand, assume, presume, conjecture,surmise, reckon, dare say; N. Amer. figure; informal suss out.

deduct |dɪˈdʌkt| verb[ with obj. ]subtract or take away (an amount or part) from a total:tax has been deducted fromthe payments.ORIGIN late Middle English: from Latindeduct- ‘taken or led away’, from the verb deducere.


Deduct and deduce were not distinguished in sense until the mid 17th cent.
 
I could use as exculpatory evidence the remnants of a past but not forgotten English education.

Without deducting anything from the product of your educations, we can although deduce a better induced conduct.
Since many words come for the Latin "ducere" (v. take), a question comes naturally:

Where is the duck?
 
In the tape! Duck Tape >:)

In case it is a black duck.

Every philosophy is like looking for a black DUCK in a dark room ( or was it a duck room?) ; Some philosophy is like looking for a black duck in a dark room, but the duck isn’t there; Some other philosophy is like looking for a black duck in a dark room, the duck isn’t there, but you keep shouting “I’ve found it! I’ve found it!”
 
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