Scam/Fake? FAKE Ref 54 on Gumtree

[DavidUK]

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Just the one photo needed to confirm it's a fake...

The seller did answer his phone. I explained it's a fake, illegal to sell it, and to toss it into a skip.

Be careful out there!

 

[Jimmymack]

For those of us not so clued in what's wrong with this picture?

 

[Clivey]

@DavidUK What is up with this one. It's a very accurate counterfeit if you are correct and most of the time you are.
Here's Mr Howard on this particular horn.

Selmer Reference 54 tenor saxophone review

A workbench review of the Selmer Reference 54 tenor sax

www.shwoodwind.co.uk

 

[jonf]

I'm not going to offer a definitive statement, but have the following comments:

The seller's in Shenley Church End, Buckinghamshire, but it ships from Ireland in 5-7 days. The seller's pics are not great which doesn't help, but the engraving, general finish and the rings either end of the bow all look different to what I've seen on Ref 54s. Pic shows a Ref 54 logo but the model isn't mentioned in the advert text.

 

[DavidUK]

Finish to r/h pinky keys, relationship of lettering to one another. Seller didn't buy it new, was cagey where it came from, acted too surprised about Chinese copies of this particular model which is greatly faked. I would have explained more earlier but was on my way out to see a client.

 

[Yansalis]

...and one doesn't want to educate the perpetrators too much.

 

[Jimmymack]

I'm impressed by your knowledge and I don't doubt you are right but from the pictures an amazing amount of work has gone into faking that, there are even convincing signs of wear. The guy still has it on sale.

 

[SaxBoss]

If everyone that sees this, reports it on the gumtree, the website will take it down and look into it.

 

[jonf]

If everyone that sees this, reports it on the gumtree, the website will take it down and look into it.

I doubt it, this is Gumtree, it's just a marketplace. As long as they can make some form of plausible deniability stance to it being a counterfeit, they'll leave it there.