Mouthpieces @Cappers, How many mouthpieces does one actually need?

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The title of this thread is similar to many a thread already raised over the years on this forum alone let alone on every social media platform out there.
But hey,
I’ve been on a journey to find the magic piece like most and my journey has been so extended it actually, sub consciously became a major factor in the reason for picking up the sax as often as I did.
When I started out, All the seasoned players I came across just had advised that you couldn’t go wrong with an Otto Link. STM or Tone edge was more or less it in general but they would chime in that it didn’t have to be exclusively a link, maybe a Dukoff or Berg and at that time maybe this covered most of the spectrum of what considered as proffesional level mouthpieces that were for sale.
They didn’t have internet sensations and online advertising, sponserships and player endorsements in their face so much nor did they have the wealth of choice thats available today.
But the mouthpiece journey can be as fun or more fun than it is frustrating. So I bought a ticket.
I hated links, all of them that I tried for years and years. Younger players full of energy were playing something (take your pick from many emerging brands like Guardala) with higher baffles. Bright sounds kicked things along a level.
Each time I saw something new I wanted to try it. Some left me cold and some excited me and I ended up with many pieces as a result. Some I sold on, some I kept but each one you buy is because it has something different that the one you were playing just before I guess.
After many years of doing this and enjoying every moment of it, purchases were clearly influenced by what I listened to most and for sure what those players used, what music I was gigging and recording. There is no harm in that what so ever from a fun perspective and if you don’t go too mad with extreme baffles, chambers and tip openings its probably as good as giving you a healthy understanding as it is at distracting you from just playing to enjoy and improve. Some players just don’t even go there and tend to stick with one piece.
Personally I have tried old, new, refaced (Klum, Powell, Pillenger) and no regrets from me having owned hundreds over time with a current armoury of around 30 pieces.
Now heres the unforeseen truth of the matter, at least for Tenor sax, most of those pieces are now Otto Links or they pay tribute an Otto Link in so many ways.
Furthermore some cost £90 and others £800 and with the potential quality issues set aside, I have to say after such a journey that while it would never have been the case initially, I’m now as happy with a Rubber link in a 6* - 7* range as I have been with anything else I’ve ever had.
Assuming the facing is all good, I find them comfortable, middle of the road allowing me to be versatile and go darker and brighter, louder and quieter and all with a vibe that is classic saxophone from all era’s. I feel like I had to do the multiple stop off journey to get off at this destination.
You can screw it all up or make it tons better with a reed and the appreciation of the sound engineer.
 
It's somewhat hidden in your post (about 2/3 of the way down), but I see that you are writing mainly about tenor sax.

In order to give us some context, what genres of music, sizes of groups and contexts (e.g. recording, live performances, mainly practices and rehearsals) are you playing in ?

Rhys
 
It's somewhat hidden in your post (about 2/3 of the way down), but I see that you are writing mainly about tenor sax.

In order to give us some context, what genres of music, sizes of groups and contexts (e.g. recording, live performances, mainly practices and rehearsals) are you playing in ?

Rhys
Hi Rhys,
I did start with alto and Tenor in mind, but you are right the more I wrote the more I sub consciously thought about Tenor.
Also bruied this in there somewhere too is this…..
After many years of doing this and enjoying every moment of it, purchases were clearly influenced by what I listened to most and for sure what those players used, what music I was gigging and recording.

I tried a only a few genres really. I started in soul bands covering Motown through to much more modern (90’s feel 😀 ).
Then the opportunity that fell my way wass Ska and two-tone. But I listened to a fair bit of Jazz then and now.
I was then led into a jazz horn section as a 2nd tenor & Baritone player for a while and much later on a covers band doing anything that we all know. Boomtown Rats, Amy Whinehouse, Van Morrison, Sade etc.
 
Simple answer is one for each horn if you are happy with it and even if you are still searching, that one will still do. One caveat I maintain is to never sell a mouthpiece I have used as a main piece over my journey.This allows me to go back and review and reference where I have been and no regrets about letting a cherished piece go. This means I have pieces I have played 25 years ago but may have not blown through for many years. In some instances I have a piece that works best for a certain genre of music so they are pulled from the arsenal when needed.

My go to piece and number of alternate pieces.

C clarinet = 1 - B45

B clarinet = 4 - 5JB

Bass. Clarinet = 3 - Gregory Master Hollywood 5 / M

Sopranino = 7 - I have Selmers C through F but play a Yani metal 7

Soprano = 6 - current piece is the latest rendition of the Bari Gold #8

Alto = 6 - A45 & NY Meyer 8

C Melody = 2 - Meyer Alto metal J 7

Tenor = 9 - Beechler Bellite Custom 8 & 7* Double Ring

Bari = 3 - Berg Boat Table 130, Beechler Bellite 8, Selmer Scroll C
 
The title of this thread is similar to many a thread already raised over the years on this forum alone let alone on every social media platform out there.
But hey,
I’ve been on a journey to find the magic piece like most and my journey has been so extended it actually, sub consciously became a major factor in the reason for picking up the sax as often as I did.
When I started out, All the seasoned players I came across just had advised that you couldn’t go wrong with an Otto Link. STM or Tone edge was more or less it in general but they would chime in that it didn’t have to be exclusively a link, maybe a Dukoff or Berg and at that time maybe this covered most of the spectrum of what considered as proffesional level mouthpieces that were for sale.
They didn’t have internet sensations and online advertising, sponserships and player endorsements in their face so much nor did they have the wealth of choice thats available today.
But the mouthpiece journey can be as fun or more fun than it is frustrating. So I bought a ticket.
I hated links, all of them that I tried for years and years. Younger players full of energy were playing something (take your pick from many emerging brands like Guardala) with higher baffles. Bright sounds kicked things along a level.
Each time I saw something new I wanted to try it. Some left me cold and some excited me and I ended up with many pieces as a result. Some I sold on, some I kept but each one you buy is because it has something different that the one you were playing just before I guess.
After many years of doing this and enjoying every moment of it, purchases were clearly influenced by what I listened to most and for sure what those players used, what music I was gigging and recording. There is no harm in that what so ever from a fun perspective and if you don’t go too mad with extreme baffles, chambers and tip openings its probably as good as giving you a healthy understanding as it is at distracting you from just playing to enjoy and improve. Some players just don’t even go there and tend to stick with one piece.
Personally I have tried old, new, refaced (Klum, Powell, Pillenger) and no regrets from me having owned hundreds over time with a current armoury of around 30 pieces.
Now heres the unforeseen truth of the matter, at least for Tenor sax, most of those pieces are now Otto Links or they pay tribute an Otto Link in so many ways.
Furthermore some cost £90 and others £800 and with the potential quality issues set aside, I have to say after such a journey that while it would never have been the case initially, I’m now as happy with a Rubber link in a 6* - 7* range as I have been with anything else I’ve ever had.
Assuming the facing is all good, I find them comfortable, middle of the road allowing me to be versatile and go darker and brighter, louder and quieter and all with a vibe that is classic saxophone from all era’s. I feel like I had to do the multiple stop off journey to get off at this destination.
You can screw it all up or make it tons better with a reed and the appreciation of the sound engineer.
Whoa, now there’s a ramble. Do you have a shorter version of your question? Or is there one?

Was this supposed to be a PM to Cappers?
 
@Saxlicker
Background: I started to learn the sax fifteen months ago, have regular lessons and daily practice. I play for myself and family, and in an amateur swing jazz band with weekly rehearsals and generally monthly gigs.

I have been quite restrained regarding mouthpieces, although out of interest I have read many of Steve Neff's reviews.

My teacher advised me initially to stick with a 5C tenor and 4C alto until my chops and breath support had improved. He agreed to my choice of a Selmer Soloist tenor E last August as he could see I could manage the versatility. I took to it immediately, love the sound and can't see a reason why I would need another. It goes perfectly with my newly acquired YTS-32.

I started learning on a YAS-25 but switched to a YTS-25 after three months. Been playing it again recently and enjoying it for the change. I do find the 4C restrictive after the Soloist so in a fit of GAS just ordered a PPT alto 5. I believe that should do me.

I hope this post isn't too long :rolleyes:
 
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The title of this thread is
How many MPs do you need. Maybe you answered "how many you need to try"; but not how many you finally need.
From time to time, some people say they need a MP specifically for, eg, rock or classical or something and another for melodic or such. Other find they can do it all on just on MP.
 
It's just on tenor I try to play a little more complicated. Rock & Roll Saxophone you know! I have 6 Rovner D40. #8, #9, #10 and two of each. The # 8's are not so good for me.

A Selmer "Classical" metal "D" on soprano. I'm terrible on soprano but sometimes I like to play the clever soprano.

As RockSax baritone player I just want to make the sound bigger so I play mouthpieces that can make it louder and bigger.

I don't play alto anymore, but when I had to play, I play a Martin** that came along with the 1957 "The Martin Alto"

So two tenor-, one bari- and one soprano - and and one alto mouthpieces, just in case..... . So five mouthpieces.
 
I have twice as many mpc's as I have saxes: 2. A PPT 8* and an (older) ESM 7*. I prefer playing the PPT but the ESM is easier on my chops. So I use the ESM mainly for longer rehearsals/gigs where I'm playing almost constantly.
 
In stark contrast to my post about horns... I have so forkin' many mouthpieces in a drawer. The number I use is exactly three. The number I have accumulated is.... extensive. 😬

(But I'll admit that I enjoy trying out and experimenting with mouthpieces just for fun in a way I don't enjoy so much with saxophones themselves... I love my horns and stick to them. I've played around with mouthpieces a fair amount over the years, and just never really sell them very often since they're considerably less expensive than instruments, usually, and I don't mind just hanging onto them.)
 
I keep my mouthpieces in a Pelican brief case, meant for a laptop case. Correction, I keep each type of saxophone mouthpiece in its own Pelican case. I actually need a second one for tenor pieces, as I have a select few squirreled away in various places. The tenor and alto cases each hold 18 mouthpieces - 3 rows of 6. The soprano case holds a few more, but it isn’t full.

Strangely, I only have 3 clarinet mouthpieces. 2 are junkers, and the third is (today) very expensive. When I got it as a teenager it was pricey but not ridiculous.

Compared to many, I am an amateur when it comes to mouthpieces. Whenever I feel guilty about having too many, I remember this picture I saw of Pharoah Sanders sitting by a dining room table with hundreds of Otto Links spread across it…. tried to find it online but could not. Maybe someone here has a link?
Please understand this guilt is a fleeting moment of wondering “Do I have a mouthpiece problem? …. Nah…”
 
Each horn of mine has had its preferred mouthpiece for some time now. The only others I keep are near identical backups for each one I use.
 

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