Theory & Impro b13 and Charlie Parker

cappers

Senior Member
Messages
1,514
Location
Sussex, UK
A video short by Jay Metcalf (Bettersax) popped up on my feed about a common lick CP used over a 2-5 progression.
Jay mentions that the key note in the phrase is the B flat leading to F# of D7 after the descending Am7. He calls this a b13.
I thought I was beginning to get some theory under my belt but this eludes me.
B is the 6th of D7 so why isn't it b6-3-2-b2 rather than b13-3-2-b2?
Thank you.
Screenshot 2026-04-12 at 12.53.18.webp
 
Last edited:
Solution
6ths and 13ths are the same thing. Basically, the names are interchangeable between 2 4 6 and 9 11 13. You don’t need to overthink it beyond that or look for an underlying logic to why you see it one way or the other (like @wakyct’s comment above) because chord-naming conventions aren’t standardized in any way. People use both ways of referring to those notes and you should get used to seeing it either way.

For example:
B is the 6th of D7 so why isn't it b6-3-2-b2 rather than b13-3-2-b2?
You might encounter this also as
b6-3-9-b9
or
b13-3-9-b9

It would be odd to see
b6-3-2-b9
But it someone wrote a chart like that or maybe just asked you to add a b9 onto a chord with a 2 already in the score, you should know what they mean.
I am a beginner bass guitar player.
Having read all the above comments my head is hurting...really bad!!!
🙁😳🙁
So if you are interested in learning theory it’s probably best to start off looking at the basics. We have done beginners theory and books here:
 
Vote:
Upvote 0

Similar threads... or are they? Maybe not but they could be worth reading anyway 😀

Social

New! Social Feeds

Look out for the navigation icon:

Follow CafeSaxophone

Latest Song of the Month

Trending

Forum statistics

Topics
32,036
Messages
577,565
Members
8,114
Latest member
Rodrigo Z
Back
Top Bottom