Thanks I will try the fingering you suggested. I play the flute so I am used to having to use my diaphragm - I think it is something that will take me a long time of hard work to master!
So your fingerings would be what, exactly? Say for tenor.
All of those 'crazy' fingerings are also based on the harmonics of lower notes. There are a couple of things that complicate matters, though. The harmonic series will get you natural tuning, not tempered. Also, the saxophone is imperfect, some more so than others. The higher partials are out of tune to a different degree depending on the make of horn and mouthpiece.
e.g., the common F# fingerings using the front F are all essentially overblowing the short tube Bb and venting it with the F key. Should overblow an 12th to F, but opening up the F key brings it up about a half step (maybe because it's much too large for a conventional register hole). Which one responds well and in tune depends on your horn and mouthpiece.
Zannad is 100% correct that the important thing is making your vocal tract shapes right for the note -- this matters more than the fingerings, especially when you get into the 4th octave where the partials are so close together almost any fingering can play almost any note.
I think I would struggle to get G3 by fingering G1. With the fingering I use the note just pops out. I can't think of a good reason to change - I don't get cramp and it doesn't make me sweat.
I agree about the higher notes. For B and above I just overblow the palm keys.
Can you play simple tunes with those fingering charts?! (I guess not)
How smoothly and fluently one can go is just a question of how much time and effort one is prepared to put on the altissimo plate
- personally, I don't bother much...what's the point of making a Tenor sounding like an Alto or a Soprano?
Yes, and some complicated ones too.
Can't fault you on that one.
No point at all - but it doesn't sound like them. It sounds like a tenor playing altissimo.
You can just imagine it can't you? There's a high G in the score so you say to the conductor, "Half a mo, I just need to pick up the sop for this note."
LOL...if a high G is on the score I just play it with a G fingering (easy and natural) or from any other conventional fingering above that (e.g. the last note before that G?) just think about the note to be hit (a bit like trumpet players do) - why do you bother using the altissimo fingering for that?
(isn't sax fingering complicated enough?
2) easier and more fluent the phrasing you are playing - some Altissimo fingering are really awkward and getting back into proper action can be tricky (you lose focus).
3) why dividing different ranges like the Altissimo and the Normal range...like class A and class B - treat them as equal as possible. The transition to the Altissimo range and the conventional should be natural.
Im looking at playing altissimo. Ive mastered the alternate E and F fingering but the G seems to be a distant (and slightly non existent) sound.... if anything at all comes out. Do you need tight or loose embouchure? Im struggling
Do you need tight or loose embouchure?
The cold hard truth is nobody on here can wave a magic wand and get you to play altisimo, it can take years to master just something you are going to have to persevere with, but as I've said before i was trying to get the G once for a piece i was working on and after a long time and a lot of frustration suddenly it just came out.....along with all the other notes!I'm looking at playing altissimo. Ive mastered the alternate E and F fingering but the G seems to be a distant (and slightly non existent) sound.... if anything at all comes out. Do you need tight or loose embouchure? I'm struggling