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EDIT: Sorry, I didn't read Pete's description of thread post. I don't intend to volunteer as truly a beginner, although I certainly feel it is a great idea to have a sort of log of daily playing experiences and such! I would really like to see other people posting similar types of things too! Feel free to move this post to somewhere else if you'd like to keep this forum clean of other posts! 🙂

If he'd be willing, I think Ken would do a really great job at your main idea! He may be a "beginner," but he certainly seems to be very dedicated, respectful, and thoughtful!
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A friend of mine is an excellent piano player, and he recently invited me to perform alongside him at a recital. All of the students for his piano instructor will perform at this recital, and for this time only, they are doing "accompaniments." I've been to one previous recital, which was all actual music, and was "blown away" by the skill of these students. The piano teacher is known for only taking the best, and...they truly are incredible.

I do have to admit that after the last recital I went to, I felt slightly out of place. I had gone alone, in support of my friend, and found myself surrounded by musical geniuses. Over 90% of the guests who came to the recital had doctorates, most of them in music related things.

Anyways, so I was very honored to be asked to perform for this coming recital. My friend informs me that usually the soloists that the pianists bring in are very very good classical players. The top student, who is often in competition with my friend, usually brings in a local violinist. I'm rather excited to be playing in the same venue as all of these fine musicians, and am also noting that it is rather good exposure for me. After all, the people I'll be playing for are professors of music at most, if not all, of the colleges in Michigan. And, I think it should be a good experience for me. My public playing is pretty much limited to band concerts, solo and ensemble competitions, and musicals. This sort of lets me stretch my wings a bit and explore.

So, I've been trying to figure out what we should play. The only requirements are that it have a difficult accompaniment, and that it be classical. I'll have to look around for a good piece.

Earlier today, I purchased a few new things to work on for fun. I bought:

"Sonata"-Edvard Moritz
Number 2-Opus 103

"Sonata"-Henri Eccles (arr. Siguard Rascher)

"Sonata XIII"- G. F. Handel (arr. Rascher)

The Moritz looks to be pretty interesting, but also a tad bit modern for the recital performance.

The Eccles is a really beautiful sounding piece, but a bit too "technically easy" for the recital.

I also like the Handel piece. But at the same time, it's all 16th note runs and allegros and such. I like a little Largo thrown in now and then. My biggest strength is my tone, and this really doesn't show that off much.

Two pieces that I think would be really cool to play would be Debussy's Deux Arabesques. They aren't incredibly difficult, but it has a cool feel to it. But, alas, I don't have a sax arrangement for it. Once upon a time Branford Marsalis did a recording with it, but it wasn't just piano and sax. I've got a copy of the piano solo version of it that I am thinking about pulling a sax part from, but...I don't know. I would rather just find an arrangement for it that uses another solo instrument and transpose it over.

I know most of you are Jazz/Pop/etc. guys, but if you know of any challenging pieces, I'd certainly love to hear them!


Today I played my new stuff for about three hours. I'm off for spring break, so it's nice to get some good practice time to myself. Nothing really big and new with my playing, except for the new music stuff. The Eccles piece is very pretty!
 
I don't know the tunes, but I would not chuck one out just because it's "technically easy". All the more reason to play it with that little bit of extra feel and inspiration as you won't be struggling with notes and tricky fast passages.
 
At 11:46:03 PM 31/03/06, rs2sensen wrote:
..... and he recently invited me to perform alongside him at a recital.
Hi rs2sensen,

All of the music you refer to is way beyond me. But I'd like to wish you every success with the performance.

Good wishes,
Ken
 
Rs2sensen,

I know finding classical sax music can be really hard. the easy stuff is very easy, and the hard stuff is very hard. not much of an in-between. Granted, the hard stuff is fun to play, its very challenging. the music wasn't written FOR a sax, which is, in my opinion, one of the hardest things about it. You have to sort of adapt it and make it your own. Arrangers don't always do the best job converting classical to sax. Despite all of this, I've always been attracted to more classical pieces for sax. I wish you good luck!

I have a thing for Debussy, and that Arabesque you sent me (the first one, I believe) is just beautiful!

wow, long post from me 😛
 
I haven't been doing too much serious playing the last couple days. I'm on spring break, so it's become a time to relax... Earlier I took my horn outside and jammed on assorted caribbean style music (reggae and that kind of stuff).

My soprano's octave key is broken. Not sure how it happened, as it's been sitting in my case, but I'm going to try and fix it later. I regret every day that I bought a low end soprano (it's under the Buescher name, but since Buescher hasn't existed for a while, I can only assume China, Taiwan, or Mexico.) This summer I'm purchasing a C Tenor (C-Melody), which will take over my interest for a while, and then I want to search for a good vintage soprano. :w00t:

I haven't found a C-Melody I particularly like yet. I'm in debate on whether I want to buy a pre-refurbished one that is ready to play, or find a carcass of one somewhere that I would do the refurb on myself. I tend to think the latter is a fools errand, but I might do it anyways, since I do have experience in refurbishing saxes, just never a C-Mel.

There's a vintage sax shop in Madison, Wisconsin called "Doctor Sax Woodwinds" that occasionally gets C-Mels in that I wouldn't mind checking out (I'll be in Wisconsin for most of next summer). Otherwise, I don't know for sure yet. "Bear" over at Cybersax was pretty adamant that attempting to do my own restoration is a bad idea. I also want to take a trip down to Elkhart, Indiana, and visit the instrument factories down their, probably takin a zip over to Woodwind Brasswind (WWBW.com). I'm not sure if there is still any production in Kenosha, WI, but if there is, it might be a fun trip too. If not, I know Elkhorn, WI has several small manufacturers in business. I've never seen a sax being made, and would like to.
 
As usual, I've been busy in the world of music...Tonight I've got a band concert, which will hopefully go well. We refer to this as our "pops" concert, because we usually play lighter, cheerful tunes. Before the concert I'm playing in a saxophone quintet. We'll play some classics like the "William Tell Overture" and "Ragged Rosey." The music is rather easy, but it's fun stuff to play. A few run-throughs of William Tell and my tongue is usually pretty shot...

For the recital I've decided on the Moritz Sonata that I mentioned above. Once I've gotten into it, it's a lot easier than I had previously expected. My pianist assures me that the piano part is very difficult, however (and he would know). He liked the piece best out of those in my "music library" because it is a Sonata for Saxophone and Piano, not simply a sax solo with a piano accompaniment. The difference is certainly noticeable when listening to the piece.

I've also been working on transcribing/transposing/arranging many love songs and Disney tunes. In the past I've memorized songs like "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" (Lion King) and "A Tale As Old as Time" (Beauty and the Beast), because...frankly, girls like to hear them. During marching band, after performances at football games I'm commonly asked, while walking back to where I put my case, to play. It's not like I'm going to start jamming on a march or something, nah, you have to have some style. I've gotten my past two girlfriends, and numerous other dates by playing my sax, hehe. Man, it's good to be a teenager!
 
At 8:50:24 PM 20/04/06, rs2sensen wrote:
In the past I've memorized songs like "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" (Lion King) and "A Tale As Old as Time" (Beauty and the Beast), because...frankly, girls like to hear them.

I've gotten my past two girlfriends, and numerous other dates by playing my sax, hehe. Man, it's good to be a teenager!

Ryan, you dog! 😉 😛
 
At 10:50:24 PM 20/04/06, rs2sensen wrote:
As usual, I've been busy in the world of music...Tonight I've got a band concert,

Rs2sensen,

Sorry I missed this earlier and didn't wish you luck.

Hope it went alright... tell more.

Ken.
 
The concert went well. There really isn't all that much to describe about it. No major issues came up, and our quintet had fun playing beforehand. We played an incredible arrangement of assorted Gershwin tunes, a spanish piece called "El Relicario," "A Touch of Tuba," which we actually had a trombone playing the Tuba solo part, and "A Russian Festival," which was a rather entertaining piece that at times had the theme song to the video game "Tetris."

Yesterday I drove down to Elkhart, Indiana and snuck around the old Conn-Selmer factory. Hopefully I'll post some pictures at some point. If you want to read more about this adventure, I've got a thread going in "The Breakfast Room" part of the forum.

Today I dropped an email off to a vintage sax dealer near Madison, WI. I've been watching his site, which appears to only be half constructed, and I offered to make a new site for him in exchange for a vintage Conn soprano he has. The soprano is a "Pan American" model, which isn't quite as good as a full fledged Conn, although there is some debate. Conn really liked to experiment around that time. The horn isn't worth much because it's been through a relaquer and had some minor dent work, but I still wouldn't mind having it. My current soprano is a piece of crap, and I can hope that the Conn will be better. I'm anxiously awaiting a reply to see if he'll consider my offer.

Tomorrow, or I guess (since it's 2am), today, I get my braces off. I'm looking forward to it immensely! I only hope that I won't have to "learn to play the saxophone" again, due to the fact that I'll have a much larger oral cavity (all that metal takes up a lot of space!)

This coming week is filled with rehearsals. I'm hoping I can back off from them a little bit soon, though. I have AP College Board exams in a week (I'm taking a college level English Language and Composition Course, and a college level European History course. Depending on my performance on the exams for the respective courses, certain colleges will give me credit for completing the classes), the SAT (a national standardized test for college entrance), and my final exams coming around in about a month.
 
The weekend of studying is over! Yesterday I spent a few hours with a group studying for my AP Language and Composition exam, and today I spent a good 8 hours working on European History (I've always liked European History better than other geographic areas, but I've decided you guys have had too many monarchs for my tastes! It's a lot for me to memorize, hehe).

I did get a chance to practice some this morning, and worked mostly on multiphonics. I felt bad for everyone within earshot!

I've begun to organize my practicing a lot more than I used to. I really focus on certain areas at certain times (tone, technique, etc.). And I've actually found that playing scales can be fun! I've been teaching myself more music theory, and have also been rather obsessed with that (bugging my pianist friends to give me a little more knowledge every time I see them!). I've moved my keyboard next to my bed, and occasionally while working I find that my hand slides over there and starts lightly playing different chords.

The Moritz piece is starting to clean up. I haven't got the first 20 measures of it to be quite as melodic as I'd like (lots of rather staccato triplets.) Overall I just want to get that in good order, get a brighter tone on it, and then clean a few measures where I have to do some awkward jumps from high Fs and such. Maybe at some point I'll scan a bit of the sheet music so that you guys can see exactly what I'm talking about.

In the past, I've written numerous articles about different aspects of playing the saxophone for fellow students that I give lessons to (I intend to expand this greatly next year when I will be "section leader." I want the sax players to have a good general understanding of music, and not just some song or piece of sheet music.) So far people have been very receptive to my methods of teaching, even though they are rather unorthodox. I took over a few weeks for the section leader a few months ago (One of my best friends, it's a shame, his father hung himself...) and it was after that a lot of people approached me about private lessons. I maintain a strong belief in "There's no such thing as a section Leader, everyone should be a leader in developing their playing!"

Anyways, I'm starting to create a website-based interface for these articles/lessons/essays, whatever. I hold a firm belief that I can learn from anyone's playing, even a sax player on his first week, and I hope that the ramblings of a high school saxophonist can be useful to at least one person. I also wanted to work on this site because I've found that although there are a few good saxophone based sites (Pete's is by far my favorite!), there is no site that is a huge repository of saxophone history, lessons, effects, etc. I could never hope to replace the great information found on Pete's site, Skip Pratt's site, or other sites like Jason Dumars', but I would like to establish something with a wide range of information, and an up to date links section.

There's a good chance all of this is a pipe dream and I'll never get it up and running, but I'll certainly try! I'll keep everyone updated. If anything, it gives me something to do and an excuse to look up information. I find that I learn the most myself from doing projects like this. I can only hope that through many many more years of playing, I'll finally be able to give some real advice!

I'm still on the search for a Vintage Soprano and C-Melody I like. I like the straight-neck Conn C-mels, and really haven't decided on a soprano I like more than another yet. I like the early-mid 1920's curved Conn Sopranos too. I just don't have enough money to buy one in good condition right now. By the end of the summer I'll be financially very sound again, and should be able to buy all the low to mid range vintage horns and mouthpieces I want! Until then, I mainly am hoping to barter services and work. Luckily, I'm really not in any hurry, so I can take my time to find a horn I really like.
 
I've never really gotten the whole "section leader" thing either. I mean, I'm section leader for bari's, but it's just a title to me. THe alto section leader gets all the responsibility (which I'm not really sure I want anyway 😛 )

As for the lessons you give, how many people do you tutor? And when do you find the time? You seem to have your hands quite full!
 
Typically I work with people most often before start of the year tryouts, Solo and Ensemble competitions, etc. Around those times, I have about 10 people. (I'm very very busy). Right now...I have three people I give regular lessons to. I don't charge anything anymore, although I do take donations (have to pay for gas somehow...).

Hehe "When do you find the time?" I honestly have no idea. I make it work. I'm the kind of person who can never stop doing things, a true workaholic. I like being busy every day! It does get stressful at times though.

I'm really looking forward to this coming summer. I'll be in Wisconsin up until the start of August, when I begin rehearsing for marching band. A couple weeks I'll be training some staff at a local newspaper on new print technology, and then I'll also set up all of their computer systems. I'm not the computer nerd type, but it's easy work. Pretty much I'll just have to put a software CD in and push "install." Income from that will fund two new saxophone purchases, a Vintage Soprano and C-Melody. The rest of the money I make will go into my bank account for gas and recreation expenditures during the next school year.

I also plan on expanding my graphics design work. I'm not a big fan of doing websites, but I think I'm going to offer some truly bargain basement prices on that stuff. Really, I'd rather focus on logo design, business cards, brochures, etc. I'm not considering design as a career, but it is certainly far better work for a high school student than flipping burgers!
 
wow! Workaholic is right 😛
I'm glad you have better things to do than work at a fast food joint. I'm not really qualified for anything extensive, so I have to stick to babysitting and that kind of thing (which I don't like anyway 😛 ).

ooh, what are you doing for marching band? I loooove marching band. It's a blast 🙂
 
We're doing a latin show this year. Not the cheesy, fake latin that most bands do, but real latin songs.

It should be fun, but I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping for a rock/jazz show for my senior year.

Past Shows
My freshman year:
Music From Around the World, featuring an opener and closer based on Disney's Millennium Parade, and Epcot Light Show.
"Africa"-Very um, African sounding
"Red Cape Tango"-A tango, was a pain to march because we used a tango step. Was also a bit slow.

This year the band was going to Florida to march down in Disney land for their Millennium celebrations, so our music was based off of Disney stuff. Some of the music was pretty incredible.


My Sophomore Year:
Show: "Music From Across the Nation"
Big Apple Symphony-A song that reminded me of the city. We started it with percussion hitting on propane tanks.
Summertime-A jazzy Gershwin tune
"Somewhere Over the Rainbow"-A true classic

I forget what are closer was, it was a very big dramatic piece. The whole idea was that we sort of started on the west coast, moved to a jazz bit, go across the central plains, and then end at the mountains.

My Junior Year:
Show: "In Dreams"
Moondance-Van Morrison
The Music of the Night-Phantom of the Opera
"Sleep"- A very sleepy tune, not sure what it's based on
"Wild Nights"-I also forget what this one is based on. it was wild though, huge accelerando in the middle!

This was definitely a fun show, and Moondance is a favorite. The year before I was in marching band they did a Chicago show (the band), and occasionally we still wip out "Make Me Smile" for parades. The year before that they did "City of Angels."

All of our music and drill is written and arranged specifically for our band.
 
ooh, African and Tango sounds fun. but it was a lot of hard work, though. What isn't, though, in marching band?

propane tanks? nice.

Music of the Night is a great song. Phantom of the Opera is my favorite musical 😉

sounds like you had a blast doing all these songs in past years. I love marching band, but the bari parts are usually so boring. 🙁
 
I'll start with the good news., I've learned that another opportunity has come to me to tour and play in Europe with a concert/symphonic group. I'm not sure if I'm doing it yet, but if I can get together the funds (anybody feel like sending a donation?), I think I will. The group will be in Europe for 2-3 weeks, in Summer 2007. I'll keep everyone updated!

Now, for my rant about my day. Today was the day from hell. I woke up at around 5am and went out to breakfast with some high school friends and one college trumpet player we know. The breakfast went well, although the waking up didn't, hehe.

I then went to school and marched a couple miles on a completely full stomach, occasionally playing our fight song and "Moondance" (Van Morrison). We're preparing to march at the Holland, MI tulip time parade, which is supposedly the 3rd largest spectator parade in the US.

Around noon I began my AP European History test. In my mind I was wishing I had my saxophone friends from the UK (you guys) with me to bounce questions off of. I was mentally shot by the end of the thing, doing 80 multiple choice questions in an hour, and then writing 3 essays for the next two hours. I finally finished everything at around 3:30, and went home and grabbed a quick bite to eat.

I then started Site-Reading hell. My school was hosting a band festival in which bands come in and play a set of music for 3 judges, and then go to a different room where they play two pieces they have never seen before for sightreading, a march and overture. Bands have a total of 7 minutes to look at both pieces of music before playing, and they cannot play during this time. Normally, as a volunteer I just hand out folders filled with each sections sheet music, and have a relaxing time listening to each band's approach to the piece. This time however, was evil. Bands play different music depending on the class of music they are in (C/D, B/A, and AA). We were missing the AA music completely. The B/A music was missing about 3 different parts. All categories of music didn't have enough parts for everyone, in some cases only having a single page of music for the entire section. I would bet that I had to run and make copies 20 times. It was not fun.
 
eugh. Sorry you had a bad day. I hate it when things like that happen. State solo ensemble was today! I keep checking the website and wait for them to post my results since my mom didn't feel like staying l.l

I hope you get to go to Europe! I was there once, it was a lot of fun. whereabouts would you be in Europe?
 
Ive just gotten home from the recital I played at. Overall, I felt it went pretty well. My reed was a bit dry and buzzy, but I was able to force enough air through it to sound pretty good. My horn fragged a couple notes in a run on the last page, which was disappointing, but it certainly wasnt a huge thing.


It was interesting too...I really took note of the fact that once I stepped on stage, I had no nerves whatsoever. It was a sort of serene peacefulness in which I simply enjoyed doing what I love most. For the longest time I would get nervous during any performances, but I think over time as my confidence has grown, that has gotten to be less and less.


On my way home I played a Cannonball Adderley CD that Spencer bought me as a thank you gift for playing the recital with him. I must admit I'm exhausted, but I have a huge amount of school work left to do. I probably won't sleep, but that's ok 😛. I wrote to one friend that if you see me wearing this same suit tomorrow, just know that I didn't sleep, that I'll probably be grouchy, and that you shouldn't dare ask me how my night went! :w00t:
 
Coingratulations Rs2sensen...sounds like you had a really enjoyable time and ended the concert on a high. I've only just seen this thread and don't know the Moritz sonata. However, if the opportunity arises again to play with your friend there are one or two jazz based concerto's for alto sax and piano. Two spring to mind....one by Phil Woods and one by Bill Holcombe. I don't know how challenging the piano part is but you'd get a hell of a challenge with the sax part. Again well done.
 

Similar threads... or are they? Maybe not but they could be worth reading anyway 😀

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