Accessories NUX B6 pro wireless mic system?

[mizmar]

Not into electronics, thought you might have to re-pair them but didn't know the difficulty in this procedure.

LC makes a good point. By luck or design (design), it's not that complicated. From the manual:

Each B-6 PRO set is factory-preset with a pairing ID. If you need to re-pair the ID or pair the RX (Receiver) with a different B-6 PRO TX (Transmitter), follow these steps:

1. Turn on the RX (Receiver). The display will show 'Scanning'. Press and hold the 'Back' button. The display will show 'Pairing'.
2. Turn on the TX (Transmitter) and press the 'Main Button'. The TX (Transmitter) and RX (Receiver) will pair with each other.
3. Upon successful pairing, the display will show 'PAIRED'.

 

[jazzdoh]

You lost me at "Turn on"

Seriously i'm a numpty at this sort of stuff.

 

[mizmar]

Seriously i'm a numpty at this sort of stuff.

Fair enough. I suspect, when you've got the transmitter and receiver on the table in front of you, and the manual, it'll be more obvious. Or ask here.
In short, it appears that it's not a problem if you get another receiver.

As background. tl;dr
Because the kit expects to work when there's several of them about, the "paired" transmitter and receiver share a number - the ID - unique (hopefully) between them. All info sent includes that number and if the receiver happens to see a wrong number, it'll throw the info away. In that way, if there are two mics on the same radio slot / channel; there still shouldn't be any crosstalk.
They set that number in the factory.
But you can set it yourself as above.

 

[jazzdoh]

I was exaggerating a liitle, i did understand the instructions but i am not good with PA's and technical equipment, never learned that side of music.

 

[MikeMorrell]

Perhaps a superfllous comment, but have you tried Nux Support?

As an (entirely satisfied) Nux B6 (but not Nux B6 Pro!) user, I've never had any reason to contact Nux support, But my expectation is that someone could guide you through the step-by-step process of 'pairing' your new new transmitter and receiver configuration,

TBH, I have no idea how 'Nux B6 pairing' works. I've just learned (from experience) that:
- it's better to let other instruments (e.g. guitars) that operate on the 2.4 Ghz Wireless band set up first and add my Nux transmitter/reviever connection later; My Nux B6 connection then automatically chooses a 'channel' within the 2.4Ghz. band that is 'not occupied' by other instruments
- powering up my 'receiver' first, followed by my 'transmitter' seems to work best, though I have no idea why

As a complete 'tech nerd' my assumption is that all B6/B6 Pro components have exactly the same wireless 'bandwidth'(2.4 Ghz) and exactly the same range of 'channels' within this bandwidth bso, in principle, they should be able to find each other,

The only problem I can think of is that (in your new confguration) your 'receiver' and 'transmitter' don't recognize each other's (in my words) "identification codes". So either your transmitter doesn't recognize your 'receiver' as 'paired'devices or the other waty round (or both).

Again, the only advice I can give is to contact 'Nux Support' on how to create/restore this 'pairing'.

Mike

 

[LostCircuits]

Perhaps a superfllous comment, but have you tried Nux Support?

As an (entirely satisfied) Nux B6 (but not Nux B6 Pro!) user, I've never had any reason to contact Nux support, But my expectation is that someone could guide you through the step-by-step process of 'pairing' your new new transmitter and receiver configuration,

TBH, I have no idea how 'Nux B6 pairing' works. I've just learned (from experience) that:
- it's better to let other instruments (e.g. guitars) that operate on the 2.4 Ghz Wireless band set up first and add my Nux transmitter/reviever connection later; My Nux B6 connection then automatically chooses a 'channel' within the 2.4Ghz. band that is 'not occupied' by other instruments
- powering up my 'receiver' first, followed by my 'transmitter' seems to work best, though I have no idea why

As a complete 'tech nerd' my assumption is that all B6/B6 Pro components have exactly the same wireless 'bandwidth'(2.4 Ghz) and exactly the same range of 'channels' within this bandwidth bso, in principle, they should be able to find each other,

The only problem I can think of is that (in your new confguration) your 'receiver' and 'transmitter' don't recognize each other's (in my words) "identification codes". So either your transmitter doesn't recognize your 'receiver' as 'paired'devices or the other waty round (or both).

Again, the only advice I can give is to contact 'Nux Support' on how to create/restore this 'pairing'.

Mike

It is not really a pairing (which is "connection on demand"), it is a matching ID that is used for handshake between the transmitter and receiver. In other words, you can have a whole bunch of wireless devices running at the same time but the transmitter ID will "turn on" the receiver and it will only accept data "packages" that have the ID as part of the "header" (like a prefix in each data packet).

To avoid data collision, NU-X is limiting the total number of NU-X devices in any given environment to 6 that can act simultaneously.

The frequencies can be changed dynamically depending on "quality" and interference.

LC makes a good point. By luck or design (design), it's not that complicated. From the manual:

Correct but this only applies to the "Pro", the normal B6 does not have a display. However, I believe you may be able to use a USB cable to connect it to a computer or even phone and use the graphical user interface on the screen to do the same thing. I haven't tried it but I can't see a good reason why it would not work, you might need a firmware update but all of that stuff should be available through their customer support.

 

[mizmar]

only applies to the "Pro", the normal B6 does not have a display.

Good point. But it has LEDs

RESET ID MATCH
ID Match- B-6 already sets ID matched before shipping, but if you want to use different TX or RX to get paired, please follow the steps to reset ID match. Turn off the devices, hold the POWER/SCENE buttons on TX and RX for more than 5 seconds, then it will enter to ID match status. When the RX blinks from RED to GREEN, it finishes ID match.

 

[LostCircuits]

Good point. But it has LEDs

I didn't read the manual/instructions, thanks.

So the important thing seems to hold the power button on both devices simultaneously for more than 5 seconds to enter pairing mode.

Couldn't be much easier than that! Another Thumbs Up for NU-X

 

[mizmar]

I didn't read the manual

I wouldn't if I actually had the device, of course. I'm a bloke, after all.

But reading manuals is a way of getting vicarious pleasure from gadgets you don't own.

 

[LostCircuits]

I wouldn't if I actually had the device, of course. I'm a bloke, after all.

But reading manuals is a way of getting vicarious pleasure from gadgets you don't own.

Like watching the neighbors' sheep. Or goats. Or, in the case of @PigSquealer, cars! And c-melodys!!!

 

[jazzdoh]

I was wondering how all of you use your B6, i have had mine for 18 months used it on loads of gigs with no issues, however last night i had some interference come through the speakers which stopped once i turned the B6 off, it was a kind of buzzing, no one else in the band uses a wireless system and only myself, the keys and vocalist use the PA, the only other device connected in the PA was a Amazon "Alexa".
I read somewhere that it's best to connect the receiver with an XLR cable rather than put the receiver directly into the PA, this has worked fine before with no issues, so i was wondering how others use your system and whether any of you have had any interference and how you were able to sort it.

Thank you in advance.

 

[LostCircuits]

I was wondering how all of you use your B6, i have had mine for 18 months used it on loads of gigs with no issues, however last night i had some interference come through the speakers which stopped once i turned the B6 off, it was a kind of buzzing, no one else in the band uses a wireless system and only myself, the keys and vocalist use the PA, the only other device connected in the PA was a Amazon "Alexa".
I read somewhere that it's best to connect the receiver with an XLR cable rather than put the receiver directly into the PA, this has worked fine before with no issues, so i was wondering how others use your system and whether any of you have had any interference and how you were able to sort it.

Thank you in advance.

This typically happens when there is interference. I had it when the sound guy put mine directly next to the wireless router (buzz and intermittent "stutter") and another time when the receiver was directly underneath some stage lights using older LED bulbs (the transformers inside the socket can emit a really dirty HF signal that interferes with anything - including my garage door opener). The best solution is still a good, shielded, cable and keeping the receiver close to where you are. You can't always control the environment and with all that IoT crap jamming the 2.4G band... Maybe somebody in the audience had a bunch of garage door openers and made fun of your sound...

 

[mizmar]

An analog my be a symphony orchestra.
Much of the time people play well blended in volume and it's hard to pick out individual instrument except with a well attuned ear.
It's even easier if you're sat close to the instrument of interest.

The orchestra is just about any electronic device. Phones, wifi etc. are playing; but so are microwave ovens, transformers in lights etc. Anything can transmit so long as it's not too "loud". Indeed it's hard to ensure that someone (not saying trombone) won't play "louder" than is allowed on occasions; that's probably what happened to you.
That is the nature of the 2.4GHz band. It's free because it's hard to stop Electronics polluting it.

Your receiver is a pretty good ear which knows what to listen for to pick out your transmitter. But its life will be easier the closer it is to you.

 

[jazzdoh]

The best solution is still a good, shielded, cable and keeping the receiver close to where you are.

How close to the transmitter can the receiver be without causing interference, a couple of gigs ago they got close and this caused problems.

 

[LostCircuits]

How close to the transmitter can the receiver be without causing interference, a couple of gigs ago they got close and this caused problems.

I've been using it within ~ 3ft distance without any issue so I am suspecting you are looking at a coincidental false positive and the root cause was something entirely different.

 

[jazzdoh]

I've been using it within ~ 3ft distance without any issue so I am suspecting you are looking at a coincidental false positive and the root cause was something entirely different.

Thanks it was about 2ft away and caused a humming through the speakers.

 

[LostCircuits]

Thanks it was about 2ft away and caused a humming through the speakers.

I still believe something else was interfering.

 

[Veggie Dave]

Thanks it was about 2ft away and caused a humming through the speakers.

If the closeness of the transmitter and receiver are the issue, then you should be able to easily replicate the issue at home.

If not, then it was something else.

 

[mizmar]

Thanks it was about 2ft away and caused a humming through the speakers.

2ft is not particularly close.
I wouldn't have thought interference on these devices would show up as a hum. More likely choppyness, clicks, crackling etc.

 

[jazzdoh]

choppyness, clicks, crackling

No there were definitely non of those, but it was a humming low sounding feedback.