Playing the saxophone Learn to play by ear or by reading music

Who relies on ear playing over reading?


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My 2 cts: I play both from music and by ear. I play in Big Bands and any passages that don't need to be in my muscle memory I don't try to remember - I just play what's written. But there often passages on a chart that I can't sightread in the tempo I have to play so I have to rely on muscle memory (from practicing). For new pieces, I count rests - and rest bars. After a while I just hear when I'm supposed to play, so I'm playing by ear rather than from the sheet. The more often I play a tune, the more the sheet becomes just a 'reminder'.
 
At first I couldn't play anything by ear. Each year as Christmas comes round I play carols and am gradually getting better each year. I have another method. Think of a tune you can hear in your head and try to play it. Then to help Google the tune using the images option. Chances are the tune will be there.
 
At first I couldn't play anything by ear. Each year as Christmas comes round I play carols and am gradually getting better each year. I have another method. Think of a tune you can hear in your head and try to play it. Then to help Google the tune using the images option. Chances are the tune will be there.
Even better, listen to the tune on YouTube and copy it by ear.
 
That's a good idea but for those of us who get struck and frustrated googling the image score helps.
I admit that I do this. I tend to find that part only of a tune sticks in my mind and sheet music is often and easy way of learning the part I can't remember. However I regard this as a cop out and sometimes make myself do it by ear alone.
 
Why is it a cop out if it's helping you learn a tune :confused2:
For the same reason that I'm expected to read the dots at our Heald Green sessions which are designed to teach us to sight-read - learning a tune by listening to it is the essence of playing by ear and doing is the way to learn to do it.
 
As I've said previously, I think each individual brings his own abilities to the art of playing music. My teacher tells me that I have a good "ear". That makes playing by ear easier for me than for some. However I seem to find it harder than most of us to play from sheet music. How I envy @trimmy, @Jeanette, @chadders and even @Dot-to-dot, who only started on sax last summer, for their ability to sight-read demonstrated last Sunday under @tenorviol 's tuition while I'd manage only a few bars then get left behind!
It's not that I can't learn to sight-read but it will require much more effort on my part than most people need.
Similarly, I think that some players such as Trimmy and @kevgermany who are accomplished readers will need to apply great effort to playing by ear to a level that came easily to me. Whether I put effort into reading or others into playing by ear is a matter of personal choice.
@Jazzaferri makes a very good point: listening to music in order to play it is quite different. Casual listening will serve to a degree - I hear melodies casually and remember them so that I can play them but I often discover that there are parts that I haven't memorised and that's where I have to listen carefully and repeatedly to get it into my mind, often struggling note-by-note. That's what I meant when I said that resorting to sheet music is often the easy option. I suspect that Jazzaferri is more advanced than me in that he'll be listening not only to the melody but also to the chord structure so that he can improvise: I've hardly made a start in that direction.
 
@richardr that ability to sight read didn't just appear overnight we just put the hours in working methodically through a programme of learning. Whilst I agree there are some people who will always struggle with sightreading as there are people who struggle to read. However, there are many who if they put the work in, can learn.

Jx
 
Can anyone help me with the last 30 seconds of David Bowie's Changes, there is a sax solo at the end which I have listened to 100 times but still can't get the notes. How do I do it?
 
It sounds like though you may have listened you haven't really heard it well yet. That is just a matter of developing another musical skill. Like hearing a bum note in a large ensemble. Takes practice, knowledge and attention.

Get an app that will allow you to slow the piece down without losing pitch.

Sing the first phrase over and over til you can do it with the music or hum whistle whatever you can do with your voice box but no instrument.....continue til you can do it without the music. Continue on til you have it all down at 50% then speed it up a step at a time.

The first time you do this it will seem to take ages, but if you keep it up, it will come faster and faster. Like all musical tasks, focussed practice with a short term goal will yield the best results. Stop and do something completely different if you find yourself wandering.

After lots of experience you will find transcribing, like ear playing and sight reading is just another thing you do
 
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