Intonation Intonation when playing overtones

[Mark Hancock]

Well, the tuner checked out ok against an electric piano, so no problem there.

I tried the tuning method you suggested @jbtsax and it did result in a different mouthpiece position to what I normally use.

I could also get pretty good agreement on the low Bb (Bb1), fingered Bb (Bb2) and 1st overtone of low Bb (Bb2) as you suggested @Pete Thomas.

The overtone Bb3 is still sharp (+20cent) but with a fair deal of clumsy oral gymnastics, I could get it more or less in tune.

Since I only managed to get the Bb3 overtone a couple of weeks ago, it seems that the evidence is pointing rather squarely at me , which let's face it, is pretty much what we all suspected in the first place.

Thanks for your very helpful responses! At least I have a better idea now about setting up the mouthpiece, and what to aim for with the overtones

 

[Colin the Bear]

@jbtsax I read your explanations and they make perfect sense to me and help a great deal. When I try to pass the information on, however, something gets lost. The moment I started using your method for finding mouthpiece position, all my tuning issues were resolved. Overblowing the bell note harmonics has added an extra dimension to my playing that others have commented on. Thankyou

 

[Ivan]

Didn't anyone blow into the tube of mom's hoover? You can definitely hear the overtones aren't tempered!

Then a trip to A+E?... " I was hoovering in the nude, when..."

 

[6441]

We had a neighbor in Paris, directly across from us on a busy street, who did that!

 

[Ivan]

We had a neighbor in Paris, directly across from us on a busy street, who did that!

There's one on every busy street

 

[6441]

Not only was it very hard to get Bb4 (two octaves up), but now when I do, it's quite sharp as stated in the original post. It is difficult to lose the habit of clenching the mouthpiece to go higher, but it must be done!