Saxophones Identify this mouthpiece?

[Cloggs]

Can anyone help me identify this mouthpiece? It is marked Selmer and the tip opening is 1.55 to 1.6mm. Is it an early version C*?

Cheers Eric

 

[Vlad]

That to me looks like a ''selmer musical instruments'' one rather than a pukka Selmer Paris job.

 

[lydian]

That's the cheapest plastic student Selmer you can get. Worth about 20 USD new. Completely unrelated to the S80 or Soloist Paris models.

 

[Vlad]

There was a whole load of budget stuff of all kinds over the years with ''Selmer'' stamped on it. I assume there must have been some kind of deal done with the real Selmer to use the name.
The so called Selmer shop in Charing Cross Rd back in the day was mainly an amplifier type outfit

 

[Pete Thomas]

I assume there must have been some kind of deal done with the real Selmer to use the name.

The logo looks like it is Selmer USA so is technically a real Selmer though the companies (USA and France) were separate. Selmer USA is now Conn-Selmer. and still separate from Selmer Paris.

EDIT: there is some confusion obviously because of the brand name (there were two Selmer brothers) but also because Selmer USA was the importer/distributor for Selmer Paris.

 

[Colin the Bear]

Is it a Vocal tone?

 

[Ghr9204]

Does it play OK for you? If it does, then could be a keeper or backup.

 

[skeller047]

Looks like a Goldentone.

 

[Cloggs]

Is it a Vocal tone?

Sounds warmer compared to my Yamaha 4C

 

[Cloggs]

Does it play OK for you? If it does, then could be a keeper or backup.

Plays very well at my current level. Not looking to get rid of it atm. Cheers

 

[Pete Thomas]

Plays very well at my current level. Not looking to get rid of it atm. Cheers

Those mouthpieces aren't at all bad IMO

 

[lydian]

Looks like a Goldentone.

Goldentone has a different shank and stamp. Both are cheap and crappy though.

 

[PigSquealer]

Goldentone has a different shank and stamp. Both are cheap and crappy though.

I think the shank changed with the name use. I’ll have to look in my pile.
Selmer & shank as above.
Goldentone shank I’m thinking has two steps ?

IMHO this Selmer is a direct competitor to a Yamaha 4. They both play well or like garbage on any given day.
For a budget mouthpiece (sub $60) there’s not many offerings. Have any suggestions? Rico ?

 

[Vlad]

Main thing is, if it plays OK for you then all good, wherever it comes from

 

[PigSquealer]

Goldentone shank I’m thinking has two steps ?

@lydian

 

[Tonehole]

Get a decent piece ypu can play for years, why muck with muck?
Getta Selme C* then you will know it is not the mouthpiece holding you back.
You get some chops and feel the need move to a D and just play.

 

[lydian]

@lydian
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Confirmed. Looks exactly like mine.

 

[wakyct]

I never compared my Goldentone and S80 side by side until now, I was surprised how much longer the S80 is. Does that help with typical beginner intonation issues (trending sharp?).

 

[Pete Thomas]

Does that help with typical beginner intonation issues (trending sharp?).

I don't think so, you'd just adjust the position on the cork, ie a bit further out to compensate for a short mouthpiece or shan. Beginner intonation issues are more down to embouchure and ear training.

Maybe intonation is not a good word though, I always think:

Intonation = pitches of notes relative to each other
Tuning = overall sharp or flat

There is a difference but the words are sometimes used interchangeably.