Playing the saxophone How to growl on saxophone - tutorial and examples

Examples of the saxophone growl​


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Growling is one of the most popular effects on the saxophone. We often associate it with rock and pop playing but it's also a very legitimate technique in jazz, used by the greats from Ben Webster through to David Sanborn.

Before I go on the describe it, here are some audio examples:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGrg57RbqBE

Although we think of the saxophone growl as an effect, it can be applied with different intensities. You can use it here or there on one or two notes or add it quite extensively. It's up to your taste and judgment how you use it. It can be anything from a slight edge to brighten the tone to a full on snarling roaring tiger growl.

It is a sort of equivalent to a guitarist using a distortion pedal.

How do you growl on a saxophone​

First of all one of the misconception is that you growl while playing. That is not likely to work. Another misconception is that you roll your RRRs. Again, that won't work either - BUT - it does give a different but related effect: flutter tongue.

To growl you simply sing, or rather hum, while you are playing. It's not actually possible to sing of course because there is a mouthpiece in the way, but humming (which takes place in your throat) works well.

Which note to hum?​

That's the $1000 question. Some people say to hum the same note as you are playing but slightly (or very) out of tune, others to hum a specific harmony or interval relative to the note you are playing.

I have found that either of those may work, but nobody I know of has yet come up with an explanation of how out of tune or which interval. The way it works is that the note (being out of tune or different to the one you are playing) causes interference with the sound wave of the saxophone to cause the distortion. It may be that not all saxophone notes growl based on the same amount of pitch variation or harmony in the hum.

My preferred method of learning is via a sort of subconscious process of trial and error. Trying to sing along, whether out of tune, or in harmony is just too difficult a process.

So try this:
  • Play a note on the saxophone
  • While playing, hum any note and while keeping on the same saxophone note, vary the pitch of your hum
  • Listen carefully to the note and as your hum varies and note when it causes the tonal interference - and the resulting growl.
  • Play that note again (asa long note) while humming that same pitch if possible
  • Repeat a few times and then move on to a different and do the same process over again
This way you will gradually find you automatically hum whatever note works best for each note or series of notes you are playing.

Another very quick example...Happy growling evybody!



PS: We are pleased to also bring you a a soundcloud tutorial from our very own cafe member Taz.

View: https://soundcloud.com/taz-16/growl-tutorial
 
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Buddy Lucas
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Can't recall if I posted this;

The Growl​


I have used the “hum” technique to produce the growl since 1956. Both the growl and the flutter tongue were very popular techniques used by sax players in Rock & Roll and R&B music which was hitting the airwaves in the mid-50s. Those of us who joined the local school band and liked the new music were asking the band director what this new “gritty or raspy” sound was that we were hearing on Billboard Top 40 hits featuring Lee Allen and Grady Gaines on tenor and Earl Bostic on alto. This effect was used before the 50s and is still very popular in many forms of music. The 1985 hit Rockin' at Midnight by The Honeydrippers features Keith Evans using a lot of this technique in his tenor solo.

There are other ways to achieve the growl effect from what I have read on the NET over the years, but I have only used the method of humming while playing a note to get the growl tone.

I suggest that the best way to learn this technique is to start with only the mouthpiece. Once you get the sound on the m/p, attach it to the neck. If you use the entire horn it can be a problem at first due to the coordination involved. Play a note on the neck then start “humming” a note that is higher or lower than the pitch that is coming out of the neck. Some players hum in a falsetto range to get above the note that is produced by the neckpiece. Some players will sing/hum a lower note. For example, when I play a G above the staff on tenor I find that I usually hum the pitch that is close to D below the G.



If you hum the same pitch that is coming out of the neckpiece or sax the effect will be cancelled.

At first you may feel that it is taking a lot of air to play and hum at the same time on the neckpiece. This is natural because you will probably open your throat and exhale too much air. Easier said than done at first! In time you will learn to control the amount of hum and the coordination will become natural. Now put the horn together and see what happens.

Another approach is forming your mouth to hum/sing as if he is going to sing the word "you" but leave off the "y" so that you get the ooooooo hum sound.

After you get the "ooooo" sound then add air (exhale). The "oooo" volume will diminish with the addition of the exhaled air which is fine. Your throat area under your chin might rise, or tighten slightly which is normal. The combination of the hum and exhaled air will produce a rough sound which is normal.

Many of us use the growl in the middle and high range, especially from high A above the staff to high F#. I have found that the most effective area for the growl is starting on 2nd space A of the staff and upward. Once you go below 2nd line G it becomes somewhat garbled.

I have read articles that suggest that you hum a (3rd above the note) being produced on the sax. However, while on stage during a live performance with guitar, piano and bass amps I can’t hear the note that I am humming due to the stage volume. I have never thought about the “3rd above” concept so I can’t comment on it, however if it works for you that is all that matters. I hum in a range that is usually below the notes being played which works for me.

As you practice this effect ask for more advice from other local sax players and review articles on the internet. This is valuable because there is always more than one way to approach any effect.

REEDS: Some players use the term “buzz” when talking about the sound that a particular reed produces. This is usually associated with the subject of the growl. According to some players, some reeds may tend to produce a little “buzz” tone such as a Rico Plasticover reed if you find the right one and some synthetic reeds.


To listen to examples cut and paste the following titles on YouTube;



LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL
—SHIRLEY AND LEE—LEE ALLEN—TENOR

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj1yV0K4q1g




SLIPPIN’ AND SLIDIN’—LITTLE RICHARD—LEE ALLEN—TENOR


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpIEnB3UROo




KEEP A KNOCKIN’
—LITTLE RICHARD—GRADY GAINES—TENOR


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHrAZhQEO90




UNCHAIN MY HEART—JOE COCKER—CLARENCE CLEMONS—TENOR


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtFUX4Y2U84




THE HEAT IS ON—GLEN FREY—DAVID WOODFORD—TENOR


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKWgYKa2Fh0




ROCKIN’ AT MIDNIGHT—HONEYDRIPPERS—KEITH EVANS—TENOR


- YouTube



UP THERE IN ORBIT—EARL BOSTIC—ALTO


- YouTube



FREEWAY OF LOVE—ARETHA FRANKLIN—CLARENCE CLEMONS—TENOR


- YouTube



LOVE ON A ROOFTOP DESMOND CHILD—CHRIS MOSTERT —TENOR





Other links for the growl;



The saxophone growl - a lot easier than you think if you follow this guide



Saxophone Frequently Asked Questions



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