Saxophones How many saxes does one really need?

[Dr G]

I didn’t assume anything.

Here’s your post:
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A guy is talking about guitars, you quote him and refer to “players.” It’s not some huge failure of reading on my part to interpret that as you’re talking about the same thing you’re responding to.

Regardless, you’re leaving out that I already said I disagree with what you’re saying even with the clarification added.

The thing you keep focusing on isn’t the issue. It doesn’t change anything either way whether you’re making this statement about guitarists or all instrumentalists.

You just don’t get it. Yeah, it is a failure to read the whole thing, rather than just a point that you don’t agree with. He said “The skill of MANY players is inversely correlated…”. Not ALL.

 

[LostCircuits]

I didn’t assume anything.

Here’s your post:
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A guy is talking about guitars, you quote him and refer to “players.” It’s not some huge failure of reading on my part to interpret that as you’re talking about the same thing you’re responding to.

Regardless, you’re leaving out that I already said I disagree with your “correlation” even with the clarification added.

The thing you keep focusing on isn’t the issue. It doesn’t change anything either way whether you’re making this statement about guitarists or all instrumentalists.

I ordered breakfast for one and you brought me three ... But it's alright.

 

[Zasterz]

I ordered breakfast for one and you brought me three ... But it's alright.

Glad to help.

 

[Zasterz]

You just don’t get it. Yeah, it is a failure to read the whole thing, rather than just a point that you don’t agree with. He said “The skill of MANY players is inversely correlated…”. Not ALL.

Ah I see. He meant like 50%. The other half are positively correlated. (Is it still correlation in that case? You’ll have to tell me, you’re the scientist.)

Anyway, I’m glad it’s been settled and we all agree that whether guitarists (or other musicians) gig with a lot of instruments has nothing to do with how skilled they are. He should have just said that, to be clear.

 

[Dr G]

Ah I see. He meant like 50%. The other half are positively correlated. (Is it still correlation in that case? You’ll have to tell me, you’re the scientist.)

Anyway, I’m glad it’s been settled and we all agree that whether guitarists (or other musicians) gig with a lot of instruments has nothing to do with how skilled they are. He should have just said that, to be clear.

No, MANY does not mean 50%. The word to express that would be “half”.

Neither it is appropriate of you to determine that he shouldn’t have said that. He was expressing an opinion that you failed to understand.

Is there something else going on that has you upset? PM me if you like.

 

[LostCircuits]

Ah I see. He meant like 50%. The other half are positively correlated. (Is it still correlation in that case? You’ll have to tell me, you’re the scientist.)

Anyway, I’m glad it’s been settled and we all agree that whether guitarists (or other musicians) gig with a lot of instruments has nothing to do with how skilled they are. He should have just said that, to be clear.

That brings me back to the last line of "Room Service" : Just when I think you're going to turn pink, you say to my surprise: It's alright!!

Glad we solved this.

 

[PigSquealer]

The more I play tenor the more I want to explore its sound.

Well then you really need a C melody 😁

I've survived the past 50 years of amateur gigging with one of each type (SATB). The rare occasions I've needed a spare.

Surprised you got by without a C melody !

Need? None.

You've only got one alto and no baritones or sopranos. Three tenors is too many. No baritones is too few. One soprano is plenty.

I have at present. Two baris, two tenors, two sopranos and nine altos. Some don't play. Some are waiting refurbishment. Some have been refurbished and await motivation to sell or trade. One, my first saxophone, is kept for sentimental reasons and another because we've been through so much together.

I don't need any of them, but life would be poorer without any one of them.

Currently drooling and contemplating adding more. 🤤 😍 🤔

I recommend a nice C melody as something new and interesting.

Another vote for sell your least favourite tenor and keep the rest. I do about 80-90 gigs a year on average - majority are on tenor so I have 2 of those. My favourite one was in Stephen Howard's magic shed for about 6 weeks recently so the spare definitely got used.

S A and B I just have one of each. I'm picking up quite a lot of Bari work now too,

A well rounded inventory should have at least one C melody 😉

Stop it! @Colin the Bear 😉 It's like offering someone in rehab a drink ... ..go on, go on, a little soprano won't hurt or nice mouthful of bari.....

C melodies are non-addictive. Try one

 

[PigSquealer]

I’m not opinionated 🤪

 

[Zasterz]

No, MANY does not mean 50%. The word to express that would be “half”.

Neither it is appropriate of you to determine that he shouldn’t have said that. He was expressing an opinion that you failed to understand.

We’re still unclear of what the opinion is exactly. What percentage are we talking here? If it’s more than half, then the opinion equals most musicians gigging with multiple instruments are unskilled. Fine then I disagree with that. Am I allowed to have an opinion or only this guy is? Are you in charge of that?

Is there something else going on that has you upset? PM me if you like.

I don’t need to PM you. I get quite enough of you riding pedantically on every single post I make here already!

 

[Tonehole]

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[Zasterz]

That brings me back to the last line of "Room Service" : Just when I think you're going to turn pink, you say to my surprise: It's alright!!

Glad we solved this.

Yes we’ve solved it. Many people on internet forums feel free to disparage others and then backtrack like they didn’t mean it when someone responds. Many times this passive-aggressiveness correlates with heavy emoji use.

 

[LostCircuits]

Yes we’ve solved it. Many people on internet forums feel free to disparage others and then backtrack like they didn’t mean it when someone responds. Many times this passive-aggressiveness correlates with heavy emoji use.

Oh dear. I hope you can sleep tonight
😉😉

 

[PigSquealer]

I’m enjoying the comedy while having a bit to eat.

 

[Trigger]

That was my reasoning, at least to justify my collection to myself. But I'm finding it very difficult to bring myself to sell any of the saxophones, flutes, clarinets and mouthpieces. Do you collect mouthpieces too ?



Maybe it depends on where in the world you live, but that's not really my experience here in the UK over the last 25 years. With one or two exceptions I think I would struggle to get back what I paid for used saxophones by makers such as Buescher, Conn, Martin, Buffet Crampon, SML, Grafton, Olds and Keilwerth. The used Selmers seem to have done OK in terms of appreciating value and I'm not sure about Rampone, Yanagisawa and Yamaha.

Rhys

I try not to collect mouthpieces but I do seem to have a few, 🤣🤣 although I’ve seem to have settled on west coast mouthpieces for alto at the moment plus the tenor pieces are really good too
I’d like to say they came with the sax but I’d only be lying to myself 🤣🤣

 

[Colin the Bear]

I’m not opinionated 🤪

That's your opinion. 🐻‍❄️

 

[Colin the Bear]

We’re still unclear of what the opinion is exactly. What percentage are we talking here? If it’s more than half, then the opinion equals most musicians gigging with multiple instruments are unskilled. Fine then I disagree with that. Am I allowed to have an opinion or only this guy is? Are you in charge of that?


I don’t need to PM you. I get quite enough of you riding pedantically on every single post I make here already!

Banter... It's called banter. 🙈🙉🙊

 

[Grumps]

I wonder how many saxes Roland Kirk takes to a gig.

A mouthful?

 

[Dr G]

We’re still unclear of what the opinion is exactly. What percentage are we talking here? If it’s more than half, then the opinion equals most musicians gigging with multiple instruments are unskilled. Fine then I disagree with that. Am I allowed to have an opinion or only this guy is? Are you in charge of that?

I don’t know whether to refer you to a therapist or a statistician. You’re just making stuff up - throwing out numbers as if they mean something, then disagreeing with yourself.

I don’t need to PM you. I get quite enough of you riding pedantically on every single post I make here already!

You’re funny. You say that you “get quite enough of me”, yet keep pushing the conversation with more questions as if you long to hear more from me. Are we in a budding bromance that I’m not aware of? I’m flattered but not interested.

 

[lydian]

Surprised you got by without a C melody !

I actually do have a C. I just don't gig with it. Also have a bass that I gig with a lot. Add to that flute, clarinet, trumpet, trombone, harmonica, piano, ukulele, etc. Seems my GAS is actually worse than I thought.

 

[Tonehole]

I understand this may be a scurrilous statement but I believe one C Melody is more than enough for any rational person! LOL

I actually get paid for playing one at Klezmer, Cocktails whatever. Now would I like one that is better than my Chinese C Mel? The answer is yes but do I need two? I think the sane answer is NO! 💥

Just like one Sopranino is enough, my Series II is the only one I will likely ever own and I am not on a quest for one that is better performing.

For me one Low A and a Low B Baritones are enough. My YBS62 and SBA covers all the bases.

I have two Alto sax at present and three Tenors which is down from six.

One flute a few trumpets but I have six Bb Clarinets will be selling three.

My current fetish is with soprano saxophones which is now up to 5 and that is after selling 2 in the past year or so.
Miss count I just bought another soprano yesterday so now have six on hand! LOL