Miscellaneous Carrier for shipping a saxophone

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I'm going to be shipping a fairly valuable saxophone (about £1500), and I am looking at various carriers.
The prices look reasonable until I include full insurance, at which point the cost increases enormously. (Quote of £88 extra in one case!)

What do other people do?

Can anyone recommend a UK carrier who doesn't drop parcels and who provides cover at a reasonable cost?
 
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An oversized box and lots of chips.... beyond that there's not a lot to choose between the usual suspects- UPS, FedEx, DHL (but avoid Parcelforce- they have exclusions on their insurance for musical instruments)

But:
As far as I can tell, I need an account to deal with FedEx.
The UPS online order system doesn't seem to provide any way to get insurance cover.
The DHL online booking system only seems to provide cover up to £1000.

Others I have found:
ParcelHero: Extra £61 for insurance
p4D: £36
Parcel2Go: £88
MyHermes only lists cover up to £300
Post Office only seems to provide cover up to £500
 
I'd be looking at how much fuel it would cost to deliver it in person.

You need to pack it to survive being thrown down a flight of stairs, returned to the first floor and chucked out of the window onto a concrete floor.

Bubble wrap the sax in the case. Another thick layer of bubble wrap around the case and pack that in a sturdy box securely wrapped in parcel tape. Oh! and don't use Hermes. Ever.
 
just in case you're even thinking about it - DO NOT USE HERMES - they throw things over my gate without even bothering to knock

last time I sold a sax on ebay I found it was cheaper to book UPS via Shutl.com than on UPS' website - a UPS van came to pick it up and it arrived safely so it worked for me

some helpful hints on packing -
Posting or Shipping a Sax?
 
I have used a local courier and next day delivery with insurance for around £20 and have had no problems.
Packing the sax well is just as important as choosing your couriers, i always cork the righthand keys shut and pack in a sturdy cardboard box.
I have used empty eggshell boxes on the corners and they have some give if the sax is roughly manhandled.
 
Try UPS Access Point via parcel2go. My Hermes, as well as being useless, also excludes musical instruments. ParcelForce are just rubbush, as are Yodel.
 
I'm going to be shipping a fairly valuable saxophone (about £1500), and I am looking at various carriers.
The prices look reasonable until I include full insurance, at which point the cost increases enormously. (Quote of £88 extra in one case!)

What do other people do?

Can anyone recommend a UK carrier who doesn't drop parcels and who provides cover at a reasonable cost?
Have a look at Shipley, find someone with a very good rating and you can talk to them personally, I have used them twice for big items and had no problem. I guess its a bit like using Ebay, most sellers are trying to build a good reputation and will look after you.
 
I always use UPS - but I can't say that I use them enough to say whether they're any better than anyone else.

That said, I would never rely on a courier to treat a horn with as much care as is required - so I make sure the horn is very well packaged.
You don't really need to cork down the action - after all, it's designed to move at quite high speeds and to tolerate quite a bit of force. But you do need to ensure that the horn cannot move in the case. It's this movement that does the damage. If the box gets dropped, the impact is like hitting the horn with the inside of the case.
Use foam, rolled up pieces of bubblewrap, polystyrene blocks, packing peaunts...anything to softly wedge the horn in the case so that it doesn't move when you pick the case up and give it a shake.
It's often worth nipping down to your local tip to see whether anyone's dumped a sofa. The seat squabs will be a solid lump of 5 inch thick foam. Look out for polystyrene 'corners' (from large white goods packing boxes). These will probably need cutting to shape.

Use a box that's a bit larger than the case, at least a couple of inches all round - and either fill the space with soft packing material, or (preferably) mount the case on blocks of foam/polystyrene at each of its corners. Glue/tape the blocks in place - if the horn takes a tumble it may well survive the fall, but the blocks may be displaced...and then you're in trouble. Larger horns may need additional blocks to support the middle of the case. Use a water-based glue, as a solvent-based glue may melt foam/polystyrene.
This method places the case (and the horn) 'in suspension' and provides the most inefficient path for any impact force to travel through.

Bubble wrap is great stuff...but only when used in vast quantities. The horn needs to be wrapped so well that you could quite happily give the box a hefty kick and not worry that it will damage the horn.
So...simply wrapping the case in a box is no good. Wrapping two or three layers of bubblewrap around the case before boxing it up is no good either. And neither is using materials that will compress but won't recover (rolled up cardboard).

As for insurance, you really have to check the small print as many couriers will quite happily accept your money but fail to tell you that musical instruments aren't covered. Take lots of photos before you pack the horn, making sure that you have good shots of the area around the low Eb/C key guards, the front lip of the bell, the bell key table and the group of pillars at the top of the horn that hold the G/top E/top F# keys on. Take photos of the package too.

And then keep your fingers crossed.
 
I use P4D, it is generally cheapest as they are an agent for several couriers so your one registration with them allows you to choose the cheapest quote out of various.

Insurance over the default £50 is (I think) 2% of the insured value.They will cover musical instruments and give packing instructions.
 
An oversized box and lots of chips.... beyond that there's not a lot to choose between the usual suspects- UPS, FedEx, DHL (but avoid Parcelforce- they have exclusions on their insurance for musical instruments)

I agree. The way the sax is packaged is as important as anything. So, go overboard with plenty of bubblewrap and/or expanded polystyrene "peanuts" inside a sturdy cardboard box. If you can tie some lightweight rope around it (so it can be carried like a suitcase) then that will slightly reduce the likelihood of accidents.

Frankly any carrier can drop a box - purely through accident. I've never had problems receiving saxophones via courier - so far. They've never arrived damaged, but of course there's always a first time for everything. I suspect I've just been very lucky.
 
Use foam, rolled up pieces of bubblewrap, polystyrene blocks, packing peaunts...


Should I take the peanuts out of the packet?

iu
 
But what if we confuse it with a game of pass the parcel and each person who handles it removes a layer of wrapping. Whoever opens the case keeps the sax.


So my ad should read:

Saxophone for sale
Postage is free, but delivery may take a while, the packing may have been ripped off, and it may never arrive.


Pretty much the same as saying I will send it by second-class post.
 

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