TV/film/books Bird: Not Out Of Nowhere

[Veggie Dave]

This popped up on my Facebook feed tonight. I haven't watched it yet but it looks like it's going to be good:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1LBGTBjf9k

 

[Veggie Dave]

Watched it now. It's not actually that good after all...

 

[turf3]

I'd suggest anyone to watch/listen to the recording of Bird, playing Cherokee, at age 18 or so, maybe around 1938. It's fascinating to hear the way he's coming from a very arpeggiated 30s style of playing, to his own way of playing.

 

[Grumps]

Watched it now. It's not actually that good after all...

Yeah, when that came on local PBS I was psyched too... but then it just becomes a bunch of people playing and doing their own thing... like who is this about? I don't think I gave it more than five minutes. Ten tops.

 

[JayeNM]

Sadly this is becoming not uncommon.

Not sure if it simply just an example of a slow untethering of analyzing the past with an objective eye and some degree of journalistic integrity...which takes discipline to employ....

Or whether these bios are just examples of 'gotta produce content, content, content' which seems to have taken over today....and using a famous musician as a mechanism to produce the content is just great clickbait....

There are other dead musician bios employing this MO out there....probably more than I care to imagine...

 

[turf3]

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Or whether these bios are just examples of 'gotta produce content, content, content' which seems to have taken over today....and using a famous musician as a mechanism to produce the content is just great clickbait....

There you have it. That's exactly what it is.

"One weird old trick to getting clicks is to re-use some old stuff as the headline for some other stuff that has NOTHING to do with it!"

 

[PigSquealer]

My YT feed is loaded with regurgitated repost crud. Yeah, follow the money content.

 

[Grumps]

Funniest thing about it, is that it's PBS.
Which is nearly unwatchable anyway these days.
Sadly.

 

[JayeNM]

There you have it. That's exactly what it is.

"One weird old trick to getting clicks is to re-use some old stuff as the headline for some other stuff that has NOTHING to do with it!"

There was a terrible, terrible...horrendous one like this a few years back, way more transparent in intent than this Bird one.

It was titled as a biography of Stevie Ray Vaughn. A player I always really dug.

What I expect in such, a look back at a player who passed relatively recently, who...if alive...would still be playing today, quite likely...is interviews and nuggets with contempoary musicians who knew him and paid their dues at the same time and played the same circuits.

Maybe even dig up some his old significant others and get some interview from them.

What happened, almost immediately into the vid...was an interview with...John Mayer
. A guy who was 8 years old when Stevie...died. Now the first Mayer appearance was mercifully short, so his inanity was almost palatable. The next cut away from Stevie footage went to interviews from the guys from Double Trouble.

So I got psyched there at that. But their commentary was short, miniscule. 😳

Right after...guess who was back on screen ? Myeah...Mayer.

Guess who, thru the 2/3 of the vid I managed to FORCE MYSELF to continue watching, KEPT REAPPEARING ? To the point of taking up like at least 65% of the interview footage ?

So...it was an orchestrated DUPE. A product produced with intent to associate Mayer to a lineage of blues guitar greatness which at the time of production he had not at all attained nor was even particularly ASSOCIATED WITH.

I wasn't alone in catching it. The comments were peppered with 'why interview him!?' and "funny, I came here to watch a Stevie bio...did anyone else?" sorta replies.

So yeah, that's all these have become adulterated to, nowadays

 

[turf3]

It's to the point where we're going to have to go to the library and check out actual books to read accurate information. Crazy talk, I know.

It seems that the internet as a useful source of information not readily available from other sources has about run its course. Not completely dead yet, mind you, but well along the downward slope. Still handy for finding driving directions, and phone numbers of local businesses, and for communications amongst actual humans, but rapidly losing its utility as a research tool.

 

[JayeNM]

It's to the point where we're going to have to go to the library and check out actual books to read accurate information. Crazy talk, I know.

It seems that the internet as a useful source of information not readily available from other sources has about run its course. Not completely dead yet, mind you, but well along the downward slope. Still handy for finding driving directions, and phone numbers of local businesses, and for communications amongst actual humans, but rapidly losing its utility as a research tool.

I agree with that. Half the transmissions on social and mainstream media are literally...inaccurate. The bar has fallen so low that the urge to just make stuff up, or revise history to fit a narrative which shows YOU in the best light... so you can get clicks and become successfully monetized, I suppose ...becomes too much to resist for many.

 

[skeller047]

I’m a fairly smart guy. Hip to the cons and scams out there in the world, paid my dues in dives and gutters, conversent with the scheming of high level tech bros. Worked in music for 25 years, and in software/tech for 30.

And yet, I have been duped by AI on at least 5 occasions in the last month. On YouTube. When I say duped, I mean I watch something, and it’s maybe 1/2 way through that I realize it’s AI. Maybe it’s an unnatural pause, or a mispronounced word. Maybe it’s just a feeling. Maybe it’s the realization that this video just makes no sense at all. YouTube is now full of this drek.

I’m about 1/3 of the way through the second book of the “3 Body Problem”. I find myself relating strongly to the feeling of resigned despair expressed in this work. There’s a strong motivation in humans to take advantage of others without any regard for their welfare, or long term consequences. I wish there was a way to excise this.

 

[JayeNM]

I’m a fairly smart guy. Hip to the cons and scams out there in the world, paid my dues in dives and gutters, conversent with the scheming of high level tech bros. Worked in music for 25 years, and in software/tech for 30.

And yet, I have been duped by AI on at least 5 occasions in the last month. On YouTube. When I say duped, I mean I watch something, and it’s maybe 1/2 way through that I realize it’s AI. Maybe it’s an unnatural pause, or a mispronounced word. Maybe it’s just a feeling. Maybe it’s the realization that this video just makes no sense at all. YouTube is now full of this drek.

I’m about 1/3 of the way through the second book of the “3 Body Problem”. I find myself relating strongly to the feeling of resigned despair expressed in this work. There’s a strong motivation in humans to take advantage of others without any regard for their welfare, or long term consequences. I wish there was a way to excise this.

Do you meditate, or have you ever messed with it ?

 

[skeller047]

Do you meditate, or have you ever messed with it ?

I am conversant with trandcendant experiences. I don’t follow any prescribed routines. It’s probably a defect in my makeup.

 

[PigSquealer]

I am conversant with trandcendant experiences. I don’t follow any prescribed routines. It’s probably a defect in my makeup.

Your defectivness is very pleasant to visit with. Especially in person.

 

[JayeNM]

I am conversant with trandcendant experiences. I don’t follow any prescribed routines. It’s probably a defect in my makeup.

Don't need to follow someone else's prescribed routine, just need to anchor your own.

I find this helps immesely when I start to drown in some of the thoughts you mentioned here.

 

[skeller047]

Your defectivness is very pleasant to visit with. Especially in person.

Thank you, I enjoy your company as well. I didn’t notice any defects in you 🙂

Don't need to follow someone else's prescribed routine, just need to anchor your own.

I find this helps immesely when I start to drown in some of the thoughts you mentioned here.

I’m not drowning, nor even depressed. A bit overwhelmed sometimes… Thanks for the thought. I will say, speaking as a senior, that the current times are quite challenging.

But I have known since a very young age that the only thing in life we can count on is change. Sometimes change is uncomfortable or even painful. Sometimes it’s even fatal. That’s OK, if only because any attitude other than acceptance only leads to frustration, and that drowning feeling you mentioned.

FWIW YouTube certainly embodies the concept of always changing…

 

[Targa]

Thank you, I enjoy your company as well. I didn’t notice any defects in you 🙂


I’m not drowning, nor even depressed. A bit overwhelmed sometimes… Thanks for the thought. I will say, speaking as a senior, that the current times are quite challenging.

But I have known since a very young age that the only thing in life we can count on is change. Sometimes change is uncomfortable or even painful. Sometimes it’s even fatal. That’s OK, if only because any attitude other than acceptance only leads to frustration, and that drowning feeling you mentioned.

FWIW YouTube certainly embodies the concept of always changing…

Don’t forget the most reliable things in your life are your fingers.
You can always count on them.

 

[JayeNM]

Thank you, I enjoy your company as well. I didn’t notice any defects in you 🙂


I’m not drowning, nor even depressed. A bit overwhelmed sometimes… Thanks for the thought. I will say, speaking as a senior, that the current times are quite challenging.

But I have known since a very young age that the only thing in life we can count on is change. Sometimes change is uncomfortable or even painful. Sometimes it’s even fatal. That’s OK, if only because any attitude other than acceptance only leads to frustration, and that drowning feeling you mentioned.

FWIW YouTube certainly embodies the concept of always changing…

Good attitude...I still do find that Meditation helps to keep one anchored in this current world insanity. PM me if you'd like some starter vids, it brings me relief and some peace. Uses a completely different part of our psyche than intellect and reason.