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Maybe not, but my experience of music shops here has been very positive. As OG says, Myalls is a good place, sax.co.uk is amazing, Howarths a bit quirky but good, etc, etc. Even my local guitar type music shop was great when I went in for a guitar for my daughter. They could have easily sold me a £200 guitar, but insisted that one for a third of that would be more than good enough.
Sorry I wasn't very clear. I meant the bigger music chains, proper specialist shops tend to be OK, I've had good experiences from a few. It's the ones with the "Saturday boys and girls" or the "I'm the expert - who are you" types that are problematical.
 
proper specialist shops tend to be OK,

Yes, I take your point entirely about non-specialists. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that applies as a general rule with shops. I'm interested in astronomy, and specialist shops are generally great, whereas buying any sort of optical gear from a department store is just useless.
 
Yes, I take your point entirely about non-specialists. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that applies as a general rule with shops. I'm interested in astronomy, and specialist shops are generally great, whereas buying any sort of optical gear from a department store is just useless.
I can relate - astronomy was my main interest for best part of 30 years (after 30+ years involved in admin and organising at local, regional and national level, I called it a day about 6 years ago)
 
If I need advice from a shop assistant then I haven't done my homework properly. The shop assistant is there to sell you something. They may encourage you this way or that way but no shop is going to tell you that they can't help you find the right thing and for that reason I don't trust anything a shop assistant tells me. As far as I am concerned, I go into a shop and say "I want that one" and the assistant takes my money and gives me a receipt; job done.

I know, I'm a big cynic, but then neither have I ever been ripped off; although I expect I have missed out on a lot of real bargains :crying:

Martin
 
Actually, some specialty stores are really good. I've been dealing with the music place in South Melbourne a lot recently. I have gone in there a few times and done back to back comparisons with my original pieces (some of which I bought from other stores) and the guys down there including the manager have on many occasions told me the truth and said "stick with the one you've got".

I trust their opinion and go there a lot now
 
Actually, some specialty stores are really good. I've been dealing with the music place in South Melbourne a lot recently. I have gone in there a few times and done back to back comparisons with my original pieces (some of which I bought from other stores) and the guys down there including the manager have on many occasions told me the truth and said "stick with the one you've got".

I trust their opinion and go there a lot now

Cynics (not me!) would say that they are grooming you for the REALLY BIG hustle :)))
 
Actually, some specialty stores are really good. I've been dealing with the music place in South Melbourne a lot recently. I have gone in there a few times and done back to back comparisons with my original pieces (some of which I bought from other stores) and the guys down there including the manager have on many occasions told me the truth and said "stick with the one you've got".

I trust their opinion and go there a lot now

Yes, if you find somewhere good and trustworthy, support them!
 
As an ex-retailer I can tell you it works both ways. In my years behind the counter I heard some incredible things from the punters!
That said, I always enter a music shop with some trepidation these days. The anecdotes posted above are truly cringe-making...but imagine how it is for someone 'in the trade'.
I've had a good few run-ins.

One of the most amusing was when I was doing a double weekend gig with a fellow saxophonist, who busted his reed on the first gig.
Yep - his reed. Singular.
Stick another one? No chance...it was the only reed he had.
So the next day I drove into a nearby town with him to find a music shop so that he could buy 'another reed'.
While I was there I thought I'd check out their stock - what with any music shop being 'competition' at that time - and I noticed they didn't stock any Rico Plasticovers.
So I asked the bloke if they had any.
"Oooh nah mate, they stopped making them yeeeeeeaaarrrsss ago...can't get 'em for love nor money these days!".
This struck me as a little odd, as back in Notting Hill there was a shelf behind the counter in my shop jam-packed with Plasticovers...freshly ordered from Barnes & Mullins (the Rico distributors).

I also once had a conversation with another repairer, who clearly had no idea who I was.
Nothing wrong with that...but it didn't help matters when he began to spout a load of old rubbish about pads and repair techniques.
He eventually asked whom I used for repairs...at which point I, naturally, said "Steve Howard".
I then spent a good five minutes telling how much of a wizard Steve Howard was at fixing horns.
When it got to the point where he said "By the way...what's your name?" I bottled out and made one up...shortly thereafter finding a pressing reason to dash over the road into another shop.

Regards,
 
Agree with Steve above. Had some vile experiences with shop staff BUT having been in sales for years I'd say the colossal, overwhelming,
pig ignorance of a lot of customers neatly balances the scales. Its just people. Some customers actually believed that American codswallop from the eighties or whenever: "the customer is king". A more accurate generalisation is "buyers are liars".
 
Agree with Steve above. Had some vile experiences with shop staff BUT having been in sales for years I'd say the colossal, overwhelming,
pig ignorance of a lot of customers neatly balances the scales. Its just people. Some customers actually believed that American codswallop from the eighties or whenever: "the customer is king". A more accurate generalisation is "buyers are liars".

No doubt there's truth on both sides, but I have one policy with bad sellers. I never go back.

Trouble is we get teh same nonsense from car fixers, medics, computer people... You name it, there's good and bad in every business. Success is finding the good guys.
 
Sorry I wasn't very clear. I meant the bigger music chains, proper specialist shops tend to be OK, I've had good experiences from a few. It's the ones with the "Saturday boys and girls" or the "I'm the expert - who are you" types that are problematical.

*cough* allans music, who sells student model yamahas for the same price as a sax shop sells a selmer SA80 series 2 ... I found allans guitar department ok. Their orchestral department esp in the city is really bad. I got a whole pack of rico jazz selects from them, and paid about $10 more for the pack than a sax shop would charge coz i was late for a gig and i needed some spares. I opened them in the practise room of allans music, what do i find, all but one of the reeds were rotten (like dark brown and full of moisture, dust and looked like they were made from a dead tree trunk). I took them back to the front counter. The girl who I bought them off said sorry, you already opened them, we cant take them back
 
I used -to be a member of the 'Never go back!" fraternity, until I realised that a) I was running-out of local places where I could go, and b) the offenders would be unlikely to improve if everyone took my line ...they'd just have a mysterious loss of trade!
So, now I tend to give seller 'one more chance' ..... if I receive bad service, I complain in a calm, businesslike way(usually!)to the offender's manager and see whether it is just 'one bad apple'.
It is often amazing to see how well this has worked ...for me, anyway ..... I now have more places where I can shop, and, in some, I get that little bit extra, because they know that's what I expect!!
Of course, you do have to be prepared to invest some time in it, and be aware that you won't win 'em all :)

Incidentally, every shop in Spain is supposed, by law, to have a 'Complaints Book', which can be perused, without notice, by the equivalent of 'Trading Standards' ..... I believe that the Policia Local (glorified traffic wardens!) may have that as one of their duties. I can never recall the Spanish name for this book, so I cannot say "Bring me the complaints book!" in an imperious tone, should the need arise....it hasn't so far!

(I have asked for The Accidents Book in a couple of UK establishments where a bit of their carelessness has caused me minor 'mishaps' ...... that did cause some rushing around, in both cases!!)

When I see these "How to Complain" books, I sometimes think "Been there, done that!" :)
I just don't think we should take cr@p customer service lying-down ....or we only deserve to get more of it!
 
it is called " Hoja de Reclamaciones " it is indeed compulsory to have and hand to the customer on request. Great Idea, they should have it everywhere.

http://www.terra.es/personal/nubira/Hojas/hojas.htm

it is bilingual and it looks like this

recla.gif
 
Thanks, milandro .... I had just confirmed this myself, via one of the locul forums, and was going to post my findings, but youbeat me to it :)
I hadn't seen the actual form, though, so that was interesting.
 

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