Miscellaneous ai and websites (bots, scraping etc...)

[mrblackbat]

It's very different. A bot can't actually hear you play.

I have a different perspective on AI. Just look at how calculators changed things. Kids don't do math anymore. It will be the same with research of any sort with AI. The more dependent you are upon it, the more stagnant your intelligence becomes. Ultimately its goal will be conformity of some sort and we will no longer have our own sense of creativity and purpose; other than what is given to us.

Can it not? What exactly is hearing anyway? All your ear is is a vibration sensor, which is then passed in to your computer: your brain. Pretty much the same process as I'd use to train an AI model.

Kids don't do basic sums any more, but they do an awful lot of mathematics. You just have to look at the continuous breakthroughs in almost all areas of science and technology to see that's the case.

The reality is: computers, long term, will be better at processing than human flesh and organic matter brains will. I don't have ANY issue with that.

 

[Grumps]

Can it not?

No. It can't. Aesthetics is uniquely human

 

[Jimmymack]

I didn’t see the video. Can you summarize it using whatever euphemisms needed to not reopen any can of worms?

Sorry to be so late in answering. The ad I get is actually a series of ads mainly featuring chunky looking guys and cars. It’s not the content that annoys me although I can’t really identify with the hunks and I don’t drive, so nul points for being well targeted, it’s the intrusiveness, it almost blocks the screen and takes careful scrolling to get past it without opening the wretched thing.

 

[mrblackbat]

No. It can't. Aesthetics is uniquely human

You're not understanding my point. Humans are merely organic computers at the end of the day. The manner of processing is no different.

 

[Grumps]

You're not understanding my point. Humans are merely organic computers at the end of the day.

I fully understand your perspective and disagree with your point. We're more consumer than computer. That will never drive a computer. A computer is solely a tool, at the end of the day.

 

[GCinCT]

No. It can't. Aesthetics is uniquely human

I gotta agree with @Grumps on this. AI can detect frequencies, duration, etc, and analyze them. But music can't create excitement in a computer and bring it out of its seat, or bring tears to its eyes, or evoke a special memory, or any emotional reaction.

 

[mrblackbat]

I fully understand your perspective and disagree with your point. We're more consumer than computer. That will never drive a computer. A computer is solely a tool, at the end of the day.

And a tool that could provide far more objective and useful feedback than a mushy organic mass.

 

[mrblackbat]

I gotta agree with @Grumps on this. AI can detect frequencies, duration, etc, and analyze them. But music can't create excitement in a computer and bring it out of its seat, or bring tears to its eyes, or evoke a special memory, or any emotional reaction.

Those emotional reactions are just chemicals. There's absolutely no reason the effects and interactions of those chemicals cannot be simulated entirely in a computer.

I strongly believe this is coming.

But then I also strongly believe we're inhabiting a simulation already.

 

[GCinCT]

And a tool that could provide far more objective and useful feedback than a mushy organic mass.

No question that computers are valuable tools and life the way we live it today would not be possible without them.

 

[GCinCT]

Those emotional reactions are just chemicals. There's absolutely no reason the effects and interactions of those chemicals cannot be simulated entirely in a computer.

I strongly believe this is coming.

But then I also strongly believe we're inhabiting a simulation already.

So will you take the red pill or the blue one?

 

[Zasterz]

Yeah, I really want people with a limited, stunted understanding of the greatest human questions “What it is to Be Human” to be in charge of deciding it for everyone, just because they lucked out at 19 and won all the money in the world.

 

[mrblackbat]

So will you take the red pill or the blue one?

The pills don't exist.

 

[mrblackbat]

Yeah, I really want people with a limited, stunted understanding of the greatest human questions “What it is to Be Human” to be in charge of deciding it for everyone, just because they lucked out at 19 and won all the money in the world.

As opposed to old money rich people who are in charge of everything because they lucked out when their ancestor cut someone's head off 700 years ago?

 

[Grumps]

But then I also strongly believe we're inhabiting a simulation already.

I remember some years back when the Living in a Simulation thing came out. I actually saw it as one of the more compelling developments in Philosophy in some time. It was never meant to be taken literally.

 

[mizmar]

It was never meant to be taken literally.

Indeed, it's metaphysics. And like many metaphysical systems elevates what people hold as totemic to fact. There are ancient horseman peoples who's cosmology see the world as the entrails of a horse; Sami cosmologies which see world as the entrails of reindeer... And tech bros who see the world as the entrails of computers.

 

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[Grumps]

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[mrblackbat]

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