Mouthpieces Reversion to original mouthpiece

[Moz]

I used my Yani tenor with it's original mouthpiece for over a year before I bought a metal Otto Link Super Tonemaster. The Yani mpc has a 4 opening and the Otto a 6. I have played exclusively with the Otto for a year but the other day went back to the Yani for a laugh and to reminisce as to how much better it was with a metal mpc.

What a shock! 😱 😱

The Yani is louder, smoother and more controllable than the Otto. Because I play in a loud band, I have been using Rico Jazz Select 3M's on the Otto, so to compensate for the smaller opening on the Yani I have started using the same make but now a 4M.

Can't wait until rehearsals start in the new year to see what happens when I really have to give some.

Anyone else gone back after thinking they had found the perfect mouthpiece.

(No, I shan't be putting the Otto Link on ebay anytime soon :whistle: )


Cheers

Moz

 

[ByteOfTheCherry]

Funny 'ol World....I had a Rico metalite M7 that I bought...ohhh....25/27 yrs ago(?12.00 price still on box) tried it with my Selmer...no good...back in its box...carried on with a metal Link..three weeks ago tidying up my vast collection of sax bits 'n' pieces the Rico went on with my YTS82ZUL together with a La Voz(hard) NOS(30ys+)...wow what a sound.. ....think my Guardala 'King' will be up for sale.... :S

 

[ManEast]

Moz wrote:
I used my Yani tenor with it's original mouthpiece for over a year before I bought a metal Otto Link Super Tonemaster. The Yani mpc has a 4 opening and the Otto a 6. I have played exclusively with the Otto for a year but the other day went back to the Yani for a laugh and to reminisce as to how much better it was with a metal mpc.

What a shock! 😱 😱

The Yani is louder, smoother and more controllable than the Otto. Because I play in a loud band, I have been using Rico Jazz Select 3M's on the Otto, so to compensate for the smaller opening on the Yani I have started using the same make but now a 4M.

Can't wait until rehearsals start in the new year to see what happens when I really have to give some.

Anyone else gone back after thinking they had found the perfect mouthpiece.

(No, I shan't be putting the Otto Link on ebay anytime soon :whistle: )


Hi Moz
No surprise there! Lot's of Mondern day Link's are very poor quality. That is why so many player's spend lots of ? to buy old one's......or take a new one to be re-finished by a M.P engineer. (i.e Ed pillenger or Freddy Gregory)
Also the Yani M.P is a design that is based apon the old Selmer Solist(uesd by many and old Jazz player) & and unlike the Link will for the most part play fantastic straight out of the box.

When you hit the rehearsal you may find you have to move up to a New 7* Yani, if you want to keep that sound, or Go back to Metal, or pos Pete's PPT.
?? Have you got a Sure S.M 57 OR 2 ??

Regards
ManEast

 

[ByteOfTheCherry]

Qoute Man East:

Hi Moz
No surprise there! Lot's of Mondern day Link's are very poor quality. That is why so many player's spend lots of ? to buy old one's......or take a new one to be re-finished by a M.P engineer. (i.e Ed pillenger or Freddy Gregory)
Also the Yani M.P is a design that is based apon the old Selmer Solist(uesd by many and old Jazz player) & and unlike the Link will for the most part play fantastic straight out of the box.



Mmmmmm......not so sure, I have two 25 yr links asnd just recently bought a new Baritone one, can't see/feel much diference...all blow OK/Good....not outstanding....I've never thought of having them refinished...does it really make that much difference...???

 

[ManEast]

ByteOfTheCherry wrote:


Hmmmmmmmmm......not so sure, I have two 25 yr links asnd just recently bought a new Baritone one, can't see/feel much diference...all blow OK/Good....not outstanding....I've never thought of having them refinished...does it really make that much difference...???




Hi
Well a lot of guys think so. I am very lucky....the Link I have on my Tenor is an old one & Very Very Nice ....That too is about a Late 70's Model . I have had it from about 86ish.
My Alto M.P is one made for me about 6 years ago by Ed Pillenger. What i do Know is that when Ed send's you a whole bunch of M.P'S They ALL Blow Well !
I have had lot's of guy's turning up at my house for a lesson with new Links that quite frankly... do not blow!

Now Baritone.....Have not done that one for a long time, but if i did i would go for a Lawton. At One time that was "The Bari M.P" and I can remember why.

I hope this stuff Helps.
R

 

[thomsax]

Moz wrote:
'Anyone else gone back after thinking they had found the perfect mouthpiece'.

I've been doing that for a couples of times. I played Berg Larsen ss on tenor in the 70's and went to Dukoff in the early 80's. For a couple of years ago I rediscovered Larsen. Now I found the right mpc?!?! A Rovner Deep-V D40.

I still love Dukoffs!! I think it's the real Rock 'n' Roll mouthpiece!! But Larsen and Rovner are better in the low register. I think the low tones are bit stuffy on Dukoff. I play Dukoff on soprano, alto and bari. 90% of my playing is on tenor.

I never sell my 'old' mpc's. You never know .... but I did sell a rather new Larsen (110/1 M) the other week. The new Berg Larsen (Belgium) is different comparing to the real stuff!

Thomas

 

[Pjonah]

I certainly have, constantly!

I played a Duck Bill Berg Larson metal for ten years in a rock band cus it looked rock and roll, but later found the old Brilhart Super Ebolin was much better in every area!

How much of that is down to how much you develop in that time with another piece remains a mystery.

But I'm constantly changing anyway now, in search of Saxanadu, if such a thing exists.

Simon

 

[AlanU]

Maybe twenty years ago I saw Don Rendall play a small gig, and he sounded fine.
Right up to and into the last number he was experimenting with mouthpieces and ligatures!

I spoke to him after and he said he was still looking for that better sound.
I thought that strange then, and even stranger now. It's just the way he is.

 

[Jules]

Pjonah wrote:
I certainly have, constantly!

I played a Duck Bill Berg Larson metal for ten years in a rock band cus it looked rock and roll, but later found the old Brilhart Super Ebolin was much better in every area!

can an Super Ebolin actually be made to cut through amplification like like a berg duckbill (and not loose it's core tone while doing so)? Never tried one myself but if they've got the 'umph' of a Berg, I'm intrigued.....

 

[Pjonah]

nachoman wrote:

Pjonah wrote:
I certainly have, constantly!

I played a Duck Bill Berg Larson metal for ten years in a rock band cus it looked rock and roll, but later found the old Brilhart Super Ebolin was much better in every area!

can an Super Ebolin actually be made to cut through amplification like like a berg duckbill (and not loose it's core tone while doing so)? Never tried one myself but if they've got the 'umph' of a Berg, I'm intrigued.....

No the thing I forgot to mention was the lack of volume, I changed my mic and amp set up and ramped up the anti, that is my only real critisism of the Brilhart it's lacking volume.