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<blockquote data-quote="JayeNM" data-source="post: 564804" data-attributes="member: 4504">My definition, as a tech and seller of refurbed:&quot;Decent Play Shape&quot; - the horn speaks up and down all registers cleanly, has no serious body or neck damage, and is not filthy.Honestly, you cannot realistically ASK for MORE if buying a used sax online from a private party/seller (IOW not a repair shop or experienced DIY repairer).If sold by the latter, they should have the self-respect to prepare it better than the above. It should be cleaned and any dings removed, check for key play and correct if needed, and any pads which are beginning to look or act long-in-tooth should be replaced.I see too many music shops with repair depts do the absolute minimum on their saxes before hanging a pricetag on &#039;em.That&#039;s inexcusable, IMHO.They have the shop right there, they could pay their tech for two hours of servicing and cleaning to take care of any higher-priority issues...for goodness sake.Not like they&#039;d &#039;lose&#039; money.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JayeNM, post: 564804, member: 4504"] My definition, as a tech and seller of refurbed: "Decent Play Shape" - the horn speaks up and down all registers cleanly, has no serious body or neck damage, and is not filthy. Honestly, you cannot realistically ASK for MORE if buying a used sax online from a private party/seller (IOW not a repair shop or experienced DIY repairer). If sold by the latter, they should have the self-respect to prepare it better than the above. It should be cleaned and any dings removed, check for key play and correct if needed, and any pads which are beginning to look or act long-in-tooth should be replaced. I see too many music shops with repair depts do the absolute minimum on their saxes before hanging a pricetag on 'em. That's inexcusable, IMHO. They have the shop right there, they could pay their tech for two hours of servicing and cleaning to take care of any higher-priority issues...for goodness sake. Not like they'd 'lose' money. [/QUOTE]

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