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<blockquote data-quote="turf3" data-source="post: 563414" data-attributes="member: 8105">Well, when I started playing saxophone in the late 70s, the following were considered &quot;cheap crappy student horns that all play out of tune&quot;:Conn (all - I bought my 6M for $130)King (all - I SHOULD HAVE bought that all-pearls Super 20 tenor for $400)MartinBuescherHolton (the first soprano I ever owned, I bought a Holton from a guy who said &quot;this thing doesn&#039;t play in tune&quot; - $125 - with a Meyer and a Selmer Soloist in the case - I took it home, shoved the mouthpiece way onto the cork, it played PERFECTLY in tune..)Yorkthe common comment was &quot;Yamaha make good motorbikes, but their saxophones are junk&quot; - NOPEAnd then there were Pan Ams, Evettes, Clevelands, Indianas, Elkharts, and a bunch of other no-names.&nbsp; Most of these were probably perfectly good horns before they were marched in the rain for 10 seasons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="turf3, post: 563414, member: 8105"] Well, when I started playing saxophone in the late 70s, the following were considered "cheap crappy student horns that all play out of tune": Conn (all - I bought my 6M for $130) King (all - I SHOULD HAVE bought that all-pearls Super 20 tenor for $400) Martin Buescher Holton (the first soprano I ever owned, I bought a Holton from a guy who said "this thing doesn't play in tune" - $125 - with a Meyer and a Selmer Soloist in the case - I took it home, shoved the mouthpiece way onto the cork, it played PERFECTLY in tune..) York the common comment was "Yamaha make good motorbikes, but their saxophones are junk" - NOPE And then there were Pan Ams, Evettes, Clevelands, Indianas, Elkharts, and a bunch of other no-names. Most of these were probably perfectly good horns before they were marched in the rain for 10 seasons. [/QUOTE]

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