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Nick Wyver

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Tom suggested that I do a review of the Windcraft baritone mouthpiece since the poor unfortunate chap does not possess a baritone sax. So I have done and here it is.

Its full name is Windcraft Baritone Sax Mouthpiece Ebonite Streamline – 5M and it's available from Dawkes Music at £59. They say this about it:
This mouthpiece was created by our very own inhouse mouthpiece specialist Anton Weinberg alongside the Babbit company (famous US manufacturers). Produces a pure round tone that is not totally classical, but will meet the demands of the wide range of repertoire that the modern player will come across. Tone chamber similar to the Meyer mouthpiece. This is a slimline Bari mouthpiece so fits standard Tenor Sax ebonite ligatures like Rovner etc.
So it seemed reasonable to compare it with a Meyer and the PPT that I use for my usual honking. Here's a pic of alongside my Meyer (at top):

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And here are the respective chambers (Meyer first):

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Looking at that lot you might expect it to sound rather like a Meyer. You'd be right. Which is, depending on your point of view, no bad thing. I've always regarded Meyers as being useful tools to have around. You can do pretty much anything with them. Mine's a 9M so I can get a bit more oomph out of it than the Windcraft 5M but they're really pretty similar in tone. It's nice and easy to play. It's not got as much edge as the PPT (or any of my other noisy mouthpieces – Jody Jazz DV, Runyon Quantum, Berg) and it goes quite nicely if you push it, but possibly not your first weapon of choice if you're a no-holds-barred rocker. As they say, the tone is not totally classical but I would certainly prefer to play this than an S80, for instance, in a classical setting. It's easily refined enough. I'd have compared it to my S80 but I can't find it – I guess I've lent it to someone.

Since I know you always like to hear these things I've done a few recordings. They were all done on a Yanagisawa B900 with the same Rico Jazz Select 3S (filed) reed. I also did a couple on the Windcraft with a RJS 3H (unfiled) as I thought it suited it better – the 3S was a bit soft for it and didn't like being pushed in my usual unsubtle manner. All the usual apologies about tuning, dodgy playing, choice of material and stuff apply.

Meyer 9M
Windcraft 5M
PPT 8*

A bit louder – in order Meyer, Windcraft, PPT, Windcraft with 3H reed (sorry again)

Noodling on the Windcraft with the 3H reed

For all you fans of vintage saxes I tried it on a 1937 Conn Crossbar and it worked fine. Some modern mouthpieces are too short to play in tune with vintage baritones but this tuned ok.

All in all, a nice and useful mouthpiece for not a lot of money.
 
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dooce

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That's excellent Nick, thanks. My first reaction was, sod the Windcraft, I want a PPT. Then I remembered I already have Taz's, on loan, and it sounds nothing like that on my JP Cadence.....

Really struggling to detect any significant difference between Meyer and Windcraft though, so it's a pretty good bit of kit for the budget. I would go and get one of these babies for my sax quartet work but seem to have found a compromise using my Yamaha 5 with a filed Java 3 reed which gives a bit of edge to its otherwise bland sound.
 

TomMapfumo

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Thanks for doing that, Nick - really useful exercise. If you have any flugelhorn of trombone mouthpieces you want me to test
for you just let me know!
 
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