When you are no longer freaked out by the prospect of playing a new piece at sight, and expect to get maybe 50-75% of it right first time?
TBH I have no idea. Like you, for a long, long time I still saw myself as a beginner, but over the past 12 months (I have now been learning sax for 4 years and 4 months), looking back, I have moved off the first rung of the ladder. Maybe it's just a self-confidence thing?
When you can play Giant Steps at the same pace and with the same ferocity as Coltrane! No seriously I don't think you should or really need to get hung up with stuff like that, If your passing exams and enjoy your playing why worry?
I agree completely. The key to progress (in just about any activity) is realising that it's within your power to get better. Don't waste time wondering whether you have "talent" (whatever that means) or whether you're any good yet: decide where you need to improve next and just do it. Repeat ad infinitum.When you are still making a horrible noise but you start to understand why........and know that you can do something about it.
I agree completely. The key to progress (in just about any activity) is realising that it's within your power to get better. Don't waste time wondering whether you have "talent" (whatever that means) or whether you're any good yet: decide where you need to improve next and just do it. Repeat ad infinitum.
Didn't mean to suggest you actually were wasting time. Sorry if it came over that way. Probably should have said "wasting energy". What I meant was, I think a lot of us (including my old self all the time and I'm still guiilty of it sometimes) get too hung up on where we are now ("am I any good at this?, "will I ever be any good?", etc) instead of taking control and doing what it takes to get better. It sounds obvious, but it's taken me most of my life to learn to think this way.No time being wasted here, I'm in work so can't be practicing
The only thing that freaks me out about a new piece these days is if it's too quick for me or it's full of flats other than b.
I get the impression that to be a good improvisor you need to have a bunch of set moves you can reference (a bit like contract bridge) and I don't have any of them yet.
I've been playing for 3.5yrs and still see myself as a beginner. Other than passing some high level ABRSM exams, what guage is there to say that you have made it past this level?