Transcribing from Tenor to Alto

visionari1

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:mrcoolI'm working on playing So What from the classic "Kind of Blue" album.

I downloaded a transcription of John Coltrane's solo from this site (which is terriffic, by the way, you can even get it translated into english!)http://chnani.club.fr/ejma/ejrelev.html

Now my question. I know I have to go down 5 semi tones. It's already in the key of D (two #'s)
Do I need to change the key also and if so, to what!

Gee it's really exciting starting to play along with the masters.

Any help greatfully received.

Cheers & Ciao

Jimu:mrcool
 

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Yep, easy to remember rule is that you add another sharp (or remove a flat) to transpose to Eb from Bb.

use below as your starting point and remember that Bb has 2 more sharps than concert (or 2 fewer flats if it's in one of those keys) and Eb has 3 more sharps (or fewer flats). So...

Key of C for Concert = D on Bb instruments (F# C#) = A on Eb instruments (F# C# G#)
 
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Yep, easy to remember rule is that you add another sharp (or remove a flat) to transpose to Eb from Bb.

use below as your starting point and remember that Bb has 2 more sharps than concert (or 2 fewer flats if it's in one of those keys) and Eb has 3 more sharps (or fewer flats). So...

Key of C for Concert = D on Bb instruments (F# C#) = A on Eb instruments (F# C# G#)

Thanks Phil so that puts my key of D into A (with 3 sharps)

Cheers & Ciao
Jimu:sax:
 
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I've just had a look at that sight. They have the alto version there too (don't they?)
G'day Nick,
They do right at the bottom, but it's the Eb version for Miles's solo.

I'm learning all the solo's in So What. It starts with Miles, then Coltrane, ending with Cannonball.
Such a fantastic tune although the saxes are fair flying at times.......I'll get there!

Ps I got the Cannonball transcription off this site http://www.geocities.com/farrell_vernon/sax_transc_menu.htm
Cheers & Ciao
Jimu

Cheers
Jimu
 

RSPINDY

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:mrcoolI'm working on playing So What from the classic "Kind of Blue" album.

I downloaded a transcription of John Coltrane's solo from this site (which is terriffic, by the way, you can even get it translated into english!)http://chnani.club.fr/ejma/ejrelev.html

Now my question. I know I have to go down 5 semi tones. It's already in the key of D (two #'s)
Do I need to change the key also and if so, to what!

Gee it's really exciting starting to play along with the masters.

Any help greatfully received.

Cheers & Ciao

Jimu:mrcool
You do want to change the key signature to A major (3 sharps) if for no other reason than to avoid extraneous accidentals for C#.

In reality, you want to do it for your thought process. Just saying "A major" represents "A B C# D E F# G# A" -- if you are well practiced on your scales, you don't have to think about it. Therefore, you only have to worry about the notes that are altered from the major scale. Its a mental practice called "grouping" where a concept is defined by a simple term.

I hope this helped.
 
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