Great Players Traditional Blues Players

[Mike T]

That guitar!!!!!!

It's a doozy. Three necks. The top one is a twelve-string. I'm guessing one of the others is standard tuning and the third is tuned to a chord, Keef-style. The guitarist is Eddie's son Vaan. He's a bloody good guitarist,too. I think he's been running The Wolf Gang since Eddie's death. But I'd love to find out more about the altoist, Michael Peavey. He's an excellent blues man, right in the Vinson tradition.

 

[Colin the Bear]

My phone eat another SD card and erased the music. So...trawling through my ripped CD collection to replace it I came across Ike Quebec. Who? How can I have music in my collection I've not heard? In my defence it's a few tracks on a few compilation albums but, I'll be looking for some more. Any how here's one of his off youtube. Impressive line up.

View: https://youtu.be/LlbO-mZaoW4

 

[thomsax]

Here is Jimmy Carpenter! Bluesrock!. A nice piercing tone. He is playing a Lawton mouthpice. And he sings as well.

View: https://youtu.be/FuKpgPH4Tbk

The song "You Belong To Me" is a song by "Magic Sam" ( Samuel Gene Maghett). Magic Sam recorded his song on the LP "Black Magic" with Eddie Shaw back 1969.

 

[King Casey]

O.K. It's still rock n roll but I heard this played on local radio PBS FM but Dr. doo wop used it as an intro to his show and proceeded to prattle away over the top of it. I had a feeling it was King Curtis . Basically 'Lucille' with K.C. giving it a twist.
Emailed Dr. Doo wop and he responded by telling me it was in fact King Curtis and the tune was called 'The Tuttle' off a compilation CD called 'King's Rock'.
Couldn't get a copy of it and youtube searches came up empty-handed....until yesterday.
Another tune to learn note for note from the master.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qHkSY2_ZN0


cheers, Mark.

 

[spike]

O.C. & The Holidays - would that be Ousley Curtis ?

 

[King Casey]

Could be I guess. Anyone know when he started calling himself 'King'?

cheers, Mark.

 

[spike]

I can only hazard a guess that he used his stage name from when he started recording as a solo artist, that would be the early sixties.
Up 'til then he worked as a side and session man in New York under his real name Curtis Ousley.
I've got the Chronicles of King Curtis in my bookshelves somewhere maybe there's a mention of it in there.
OR @John Laughter would probably know

 

[thomsax]

I used to buy lots of CD's with saxes/horns. Many good blues players out there. I found Hollis Gilmore (tenorsax) by bying his CD "Gillie'sBlues". A player that played with Pee Wee Crayton, Big Joe Turner, Philip Walker ... A big tone. Here is a slow blues with Percy Mayfield and Gilmore is playing fillings and a solo.

View: https://youtu.be/g-ZW8GtmClc

 

[Ivan]

Here is Jimmy Carpenter! Bluesrock!. A nice piercing tone. He is playing a Lawton mouthpice. And he sings as well.

View: https://youtu.be/FuKpgPH4Tbk

The song "You Belong To Me" is a song by "Magic Sam" ( Samuel Gene Maghett). Magic Sam recorded his song on the LP "Black Magic" with Eddie Shaw back 1969.

Superb

 

[altissimo]

some honkin' and wailin' from 1948

View: https://youtu.be/vntzQqOBMt8

 

[altissimo]

View: https://youtu.be/ldjc0Ki1ahI

 

[altissimo]

just in case you want some analysis -
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RHYTHM AND BLUES SAXOPHONE STYLE: AN ANALYTICAL AND PERFORMANCE BASED STUDY
https://getd.libs.uga.edu/pdfs/costigan_christopher_j_200712_dma.pdf

 

[Nick Wyver]

just in case you want some analysis -
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RHYTHM AND BLUES SAXOPHONE STYLE: AN ANALYTICAL AND PERFORMANCE BASED STUDY
https://getd.libs.uga.edu/pdfs/costigan_christopher_j_200712_dma.pdf

Which rather proves the saying that is attributed to many folk: "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture".

 

[altissimo]

Which rather proves the saying that is attributed to many folk: "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture".

Did you bother to read it or just jump to conclusions? There are some useful transcriptions in that article which people less cynical than yourself may find useful.
You may not be interested in reading about rhythm and blues saxophone playing, but I am and I'd rather hoped that other people might be as well, but instead I get this grumpy response... So why should I or anyone else bother to post anything on here at all?
And if that's your attitude, why do you bother to read anything on here since it's all just "dancing about architecture"
Why not put us all out of your misery?

 

[Zugzwang]

Easy, @altissimo , I always pay attention to your posts, and a jokey response doesn’t lower their value.

I think the plus side of the Cafe is the range of opinions - and the minus is the range of opinions. 🙂

 

[thomsax]

@altissimo thanks for posting. I'm going to read.it I had a quick look. Where on earth i Red Prysock!!

 

[Ivan]

Did you bother to read it or just jump to conclusions? There are some useful transcriptions in that article which people less cynical than yourself may find useful.
You may not be interested in reading about rhythm and blues saxophone playing, but I am and I'd rather hoped that other people might be as well, but instead I get this grumpy response... So why should I or anyone else bother to post anything on here at all?
And if that's your attitude, why do you bother to read anything on here since it's all just "dancing about architecture"
Why not put us all out of your misery?

Gordon Bennet!

That's enough to make me sit up and take notice

I feel compelled to read (first few paragraphs are promising) e.g....

"The history of the saxophone emphasizes the work of individuals considered to be either classical and/or jazz saxophonists while ignoring the contributions of popular music saxophonists. This important area of saxophone history includes significant advances in the technical approach to the instrument. In addition, these performers have contributed to the advancement of various performance techniques in the overall approach to saxophone performance."

 

[Nick Wyver]

Did you bother to read it or just jump to conclusions? There are some useful transcriptions in that article which people less cynical than yourself may find useful.
You may not be interested in reading about rhythm and blues saxophone playing, but I am and I'd rather hoped that other people might be as well, but instead I get this grumpy response... So why should I or anyone else bother to post anything on here at all?
And if that's your attitude, why do you bother to read anything on here since it's all just "dancing about architecture"
Why not put us all out of your misery?

Oh dear,I forgot the smiley. Is it too late? 🙂
Yes, there are indeed some useful transcriptions but that's not "writing about music".
This is writing about music:

In measure 12 a C appears in a D chord. The C functions as the seventh scale degree in a D7 chord (D, F#, A, C).
This choice is interesting as the previous material is derived from the G major pentatonic hybrid discussed
earlier. In this case it seems as though Allen is using the C to “surround” the upcoming B, in measure 13,
which is a chord tone in G. C is a half step above B, and the A#/B-flat is a half step below the B, therefore,
Allen “surrounds” the chord tone with half steps before resolving to the destined tone B. Since the C is harmonically functional in D,
it could be that Allen wanted to play the proper chord tone over the dominant, however, the use of the G major pentatonic hybrid
for the previous measure and a half discredits this theory.

I would think that listening to the track and trying to play the transcription might be of more use than working through the analytical passages like that one. However it's a PhD thesis and you have to do stuff like that to satisfy the requirements. But I think they are neither helpful or interesting to a sax player trying to play R and B. Certainly nobody I've ever taught would have found it so. Feel free to differ. Would you feel that that analytical approach to describing one of your solos would be helpful to anyone wishing to emulate you?
Anyway, apologies for not thanking you for posting it. A lot of it was interesting.

 

[Zugzwang]

OT but just to say: I really like the clientele in this cafe.

 

[6441]

Eddie typifies to me the total mastery of the idiom. Yes, he's too polished to be called "down and dirty blues", but his phrasing, the spaces he leaves, the repetition of short ones, the use of vibrato in a simple blues form is something I love to hear. I don't know what kind of strap he has on this video, but he has a lot of trouble getting it adjusted, possibly because of the necktie? Great band, too.
Recorded four decades ago.