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"the Mouthpiece drawer" was one thing which I was determined to not end up with - the first few decades of my Sax career was spent with one horn, two Tenor pieces (the ubiquitous Selmer E and also a wide gap Bari for Rock) . when I changed horn to the Infamous Yam 62 "silver lady" last November (or was it October) , I used a narrow gap (5*) Yani and moved quickly on to the PPT 8* and stuck with that , it`s a bright piece so have a plastic and rather stuffy Keilwerth 8 as well (Bought for a tenner - the stock piece for the SX90) ....... so apart from a weird pretty unplayable rubber thing which JamesMac gave me , no spare tenor pieces as I sold the Yani, its predecessors went with the MkVII..

But Alto - Phew - how does one person end up with so many Yamaha 4Cs ?? . I`ve got at least 3 plus a Bari Esprit-II and the "resonite" stock piece which came with the 14M (I sold the 14M with a 4C) ...... I`d not mind but the 4C as a mouthpiece is pretty useless to me - way too narrow ... I`m pretty sure the really old Bakelite lookalike one came with the YAS21 - the mint boxed unused one with the new 62-III I had but can`t think for the life of me where the other two came from .....

What do people (who don`t buy and sell horns) do with 4Cs and other entry level pieces they`ll never use (is there a market for them?) - My Mpc drawer is pretty frugal compared to some - I`d love to know whos got the most unplayed ones kicking about .
 

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Ebay. Simples. They're great for beginners and many music teachers recommend them. :mrcool

I think the only ones who don't have been put off by the 4c bashers on here>:)
 

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I`d not knock the 4C, it was a milestone in beginners throw-in mouthpieces - though its inclusion with the 62 and 82 series is a bit silly, but that`s only because of tip size and the pro nature of the horns (a 6C would be closer) ....... I`m sure the things breed though ... :eek:
 

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My mouthpiece draw is also frugal now compared to what it used to be,5 altos,2 tenors,3 sopranos,1 C mel and 2 sopraninos.
A few years ago i used to have possibly 10 of each including some custom one off LAW mpc's,but have streamlined down and sold most on Ebay.
 

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I've just counted 24 alto mouthpieces and none of them are Yamaha 4C's - and no, I don't want to buy one, although a drawer to keep them in might be useful...

oh and there's about 5 soprano mouthpieces, 4 tenor mouthpieces, 3 alto clarinet mouthpieces, 2 C melody mouthpieces and a baritone piece - even though I've never owned a baritone sax..
 

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Hmmm, what are the C-Melody ones ?
an original 1920's Conn that came with the sax and another Conn Eagle - I did consider sending one to Morgan Fry and getting it hot rodded - bigger tip opening, roll over baffle etc, but I don't play the C Mel very often. According to my mate, his great uncle bought it off the widow of a guy who committed suicide by drowning in the Assiniboine river in Winnipeg during the Great Depression. We can assume that his despair was not related to being unable to find a decent mouthpiece..
 

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Well, I am someone who buys and sells saxes, so for me they go on ones for sale to improve the sale - "Comes complete with a used but good condition Yamaha mouthpiece" so all the ones I've had have gone. I do have a few super cheapo plastic ones, which are handy in case of a sax which needs a piece for me to sell it, but I don't regard these as my mouthpieces. I currently only own three alto pieces. Main one is an Oleg Maestro, customised by Brian Powell, which I use on my Yani and vintage Buescher. It's a slightly raucous high baffle thing, battered but plays great, with a good solid core tone. I also have a Yanagisawa 7 metal, which oddly is better on the Yamaha than the Oleg. I also have a Metalite M7, really just an indulgence, as I now have a full set of Metalites - sop, alto, tenor, bari and C Mel (customised, by me, from a tenor M7)

If I wasn't buying and selling saxes all the time, I'd do as Kev does, and punt them out on eBay. They always sell, even if not for very much.
 

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an original 1920's Conn that came with the sax and another Conn Eagle -..

Was kinda hoping there was a modern cheap rubber link or something there you`d get rid of (I may have actually found a Sak which is really a C-Melody !!)
 

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I`d not knock the 4C

Nor me, I'd be very happy to use one if I lost my RPC. It's probably what I would get while waiting for another RPC. Or I might get a Rousseau. But the 4C more or less can do anything you throw at it.
 

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. I currently only own three alto pieces. Kev does, and punt them out on eBay. They

I think most must settle on about 3 regulars for Altos - I have LAW metals in both a large chamber standard and Bullet baffle Buzzer, both are pretty bright , the buzzer especially . I`ll probably keep the old 4C as it belongs with the 21 - one of the others would go wit the Sakkusu if I ever sold it - the Bari Esprit II isn`t worth much and the new 4C probably the only seller

Pete - Likewise , I`d actually prefer to use the 4C with a hard reed on it to the Esprit-II
 

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Was kinda hoping there was a modern cheap rubber link or something there you`d get rid of (I may have actually found a Sak which is really a C-Melody !!)
Did Otto Link ever make C melody mouthpieces? I haven't got any cheap Links, mine are too good to get rid of.
If you can find a Runyon C melody piece it could be worth a try, but they've ceased production.
Ed Pillinger would probably make you one
I don't know if the Zinner is any good - http://www.hans-zinner.de/html/c-tenor1.html
 

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Did Otto Link ever make C melody mouthpieces?

I honestly don`t know but thought that if any prolific maker would, it`d be them - or Vandoren, but I don`t like Vandorens even for Clarinet .. If I manage to get it (and it really is a C ) I`ll try both tenor and alto pieces I have (including 4Cs in both types with a very hard reed) ..

I always wondered why the C-Melody wasn`t called the Contralto ....... maybe because it was invented in the USA ?
 

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Was also known as a C tenor, but the story I read was that they wanted to emphasise that the music didn't need to be transposed for the sax to play the melody.
 

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I have , yeah and thanks - I was thinking of finding a tenor piece which suits and if necessary, modding to fit better ..... I can understand why makers don`t go out of the way to make C pieces (which I guess take Tenor reeds ?) but there could do with being a few more
 
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