Strings Starting in a cello

andyjb

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I am thinking of learning the cello. My sister in law who is a multi instrumentalist says I would like it as I play tenor and I can read bass clef....this was over a few glasses of wine. Any tips or thoughts? No definite decision either way at the mo. Thanks Andy
 

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I'm primarily a cellist that plays some tenor sax. You're down as in Manchester, so that's not far from me. Happy to have a chat or meet up with cello (I have a spare....). Given you already read music, that removes one hurdle...
 
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I'm primarily a cellist that plays some tenor sax. You're down as in Manchester, so that's not far from me. Happy to have a chat or meet up with cello (I have a spare....). Given you already read music, that removes one hurdle...
Thanks for the offer, if I definitely decide to take it further I'll give you a pm. I have never tried playing a bow instrument so it would be a real challenge. Finding notes and playing tunes on the saxophone would be a lot easier in comparison.
 

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If you are wanting to play a bass instrument, then baritone sax would also be a candidate.

A good bari sax is a lot cheaper than a good cello.
 

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Just a gut feeling but I would say "go for it" and see how it turns out. The cello is - in terms of pitch and resonance - absolutely my favourite stringed instrument. Yes, I love great violinists too but (for me) there's just something about the resonance of the cello that always makes it special. Even if it's just a simple melody. For me, it's both the pitch and the resonance that I really like listening to.

I have absolutely no factual basis for this assertion but it could be that your tenor sax playing might benefit from playing cello (and the other way around too). My guess is that learning to express yourself on different instruments is always good. Ideally there would be some kind of cross-over of expression between the two instruments. I'm just an amateur but a (theoretical) idealist too. :)

Mike

PS. I'm a tenor sax player too
 

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My daughter plays cello. Wonderful instrument. I say go for it and take up TVs kind offer.

Like a sax it takes a while to get a decent tone and play in tune. Like a sax, you'll never stop learning. Hope you have a reasonable sized car, although my daughter has no problem getting her cello in a Hyundai i20.
 
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Thanks Kevin, Tenorviol, can you learn without taking lessons? I know technique is important, but would like to try first to see how I got on.
 

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Thanks Kevin, Tenorviol, can you learn without taking lessons? I know technique is important, but would like to try first to see how I got on.
I'm happy to spend a little time with you to show you some basics. I have two cellos (they're also different 'models' - one's based on the Stradivarius model, the other Montagnana) so you could try both.

You can try online, but I would strongly recommend having a teacher to get hand position and bowing sorted - unlearning wrong technique is hard.

You can hire an instrument - there are music shops around Manchester that do that e.g. Ayres in Didsbury. Deal with a specialist string music shop - generic music shops that also stock strings are no good as they don't know enough and won't be able to set-up the instrument properly.

You don't have to spend a fortune on a reasonable instrument - there are good Chinese instruments and there are reasonable priced European workshop instruments around, but if you want a mid-C19th English cello... then that will cost, so will Italian, French or German.

Your best option longer-term is to look out for someone who is upgrading and selling on a decent Chinese instrument. Teachers often know of such and also places like Ayres will sell on for people for a commission.
 

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There are many good and great cellists. This one (Julia Kent) surprised me one day when I just happened to walk into a record shop (with real LP's!) and heard a song that somehow made a impact on me. It was Antony (long since Anohni) and the Johnsons playing 'Her eyes are underneath the ground'. Just trembling voice, piano and cello (Julia Kent). Love Antony, dismiss him or hate him, I felt there was somehow a musical 'purity/authenticity' to this track. I'd never heard of Antony & the Johnsons, asked what the track was and by whom and just bought the CD. It was the cello that did it for me. I'd never before heard a cello on a "pop/rock/folk" CD. The voice, piano and cello just seemed to fit so well together.

If my memory serves correctly, it was this track that got me interested in Antony and the Johnsons. Julia's since moved on to different(solo) projects. I have Antony & the Johnson's first 2 CD's but I haven't followed them (or him/her) since then.

The cello really comes into its own towards the end of the clip.

 
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the link to the track, its great. I had forgotten all about them - I remember them being in my mates CD collection.
 
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Thanks Tenorviol for the offer of the introduction on the cello, will take you up on it if I take thing further, I didn't know there was a Luthier in Didsbury so will give them a call.. I think hiring is the way to go initially to see how I get on with it - so will make that my Christmas present with a few lessons and see how it goes.

Thanks again
 
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