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Mack

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What is the verdict on spoiler mouthpieces such as the jody jazz classic etc? When replying, make clear whether you play the kind of music that suits a spoiler anyway. A classical soprano player saying they don't really like a spoiler probably wouldn't help much...Ta.
 

Fraser Jarvis

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I play a bit of Ska and sometimes a bit of da rocksteady and use a Sakshama MB2 (with a Lawton ligature of course!) so guess this could be a bit classed as a spoiler innit? not sure if it suites our style of playing but the punters seem to think it's ok and we always leave happy....
 

altissimo

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I'll dig out my Runyon Spoiler mouthpiece and see how it plays - last time I used it I felt that it was better without the spoiler, but it's been about 8 years since I last played it, so can't give an accurate assessment. If the neighbours are out tomorrow, I'll refresh my memory. The mouthpiece itself is a small chambered piece with a rollover baffle.
 

kevgermany

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Runyon's are cheap enough to try one yourself. You may need to order the spoiler separately.
 

jonf

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I've had a load of different Runyons for SATB, and a Runyon Smoothbore is my main bari piece. I almost always play rock, blues, a smattering of soul and funk. Hardly any jazz and no classical.

On all of them I find the mouthpiece to be OK or better (bari piec is great) but the spoiler just spoils them. I've never put them in after the initial try out. I always give thm a go to see how they are, but that's it. In my experience they just thin out the tone rather than adding brightness or volume.
 

jonf

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Incidentally, if anyone want's one, I've got a Bionix for tenor in bright blue somewhere. I'm planning to sell it when I get round to it, so let me know if you're interested. Will post a proper sale ad in the Yard Sale when I find the thing.
 

altissimo

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Runyon's website seems not to list as many mouthpieces as they once did - Laquer Life | runyonproducts.com - only the 22, 88 and Custom soprano
according to gossip on facebook, they're not answering the phone and staff have been laid off, so not sure what's going on with Runyon at the moment. Hope they stay in business, they're decent mouthpieces
 
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Nick Wyver

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I have a metal Quantum 16 for tenor and a plastic Quantum 12 for baritone. I don't use them much now but in both cases I preferred them with the spoiler in. Playing rock, blues, ska, etc.
 

jazzdoh

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Runyon's website seems not to list as many mouthpieces as they once did - http://www.runyonproducts.com/mpc.html - only the 22, 88 and Custom soprano
according to gossip on facebook, they're not answering the phone and staff have been laid off, so not sure what's going on with Runyon at the moment. Hope they stay in business, they're decent mouthpieces

Shame if they go under,i still have a couple of alto Quantum delrins,always have the 10 in my case as backup,very rarely do i use the spoiler but it does give you a bit more edge but i found they are better without it in.
 
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jonf

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Incidentally, if anyone want's one, I've got a Bionix for tenor in bright blue somewhere. I'm planning to sell it when I get round to it, so let me know if you're interested. Will post a proper sale ad in the Yard Sale when I find the thing.

With reference to this post, ignore this - having found it, the Bionix isn't a spoiler one, it has a fixed baffle.
 

altissimo

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just had a quick blow on the Runyon Custom alto mouthpiece with and without spoiler - the spoiler seems to make things a little bit brighter and slightly thinner,, but I prefer it without the spoiler, it seems a bit fatter and blows a wee bit easier in the low end. It's a fairly modern, focused sounding mouthpiece, kinda jazz fusion-y, but not as thin and bright as a Dukoff and plays well from top to bottom. The phrase 'Yamaha 6C on steroids' comes to mind...for a relatively cheap plastic mouthpiece it's pretty well made with a decent facing curve. The altissimo is reasonable.
The only weak point is the cheap plastic ligature that comes with it which isn't particularly amazing, but Rovner make ones that fit well
In general, I quite enjoyed playing Runyon mouthpieces and only changed to the Lawton 'cos I needed to make myself heard over a particularly obstreperous drummer..

The spoiler itself will only fit certain mouthpieces since it seems to wedge itself between the side rails, so won't fit many other mouthpieces unless the distance between the side rails is the same as the Runyons. It's about 11.6 mm at it's narrowest end and about 12.5 mm at it's widest, so it's designed to wedge in place at a particular point on the baffle

hope this helps
 

Colin the Bear

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Sometimes the way to sort out loud players is to play quieter. Or maybe mime a solo and give him a hard look lol
 

altissimo

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Sometimes the way to sort out loud players is to play quieter. Or maybe mime a solo and give him a hard look lol
this is a drummer I'm talking about... if I went quiet he'd just think it was an opportunity for a drum solo.. and it was him giving me the hard looks
you do learn to improvise though, when you've got a good drummer..:eek:
 

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