Selmer kept improving their designs over time. The higher the number the later the design. If you find a MkIII, it's really old. And some models are known by MK number, others by design name. If you're interested there's a lot out on the web. Saxpics.com is a good place to start. But beware - there's a lot of BS and a lot of different opinions. Some people say the Mk VI was the best, and then go on to distinguish between early and later ones... Best to keep a very open mind. I've never played one, wouldn't like to comment on the relative merits/demerits.Sorry folks, this is probably a daft question from a beginner but I don't understand these different types of Selmer sax. When i go to a shop I see Selmer Mark II and Mark III alto's but no VI. I assume there is a range of Selmers, what is it and is one type generally perceved as better than another?
Sorry to be thick.
Current Selmers include SA80 Series II and Series III (actually "Serie" as it's French and they ran out of letter s). So these aren't "Marks" but "Series". They are both top professional models, along with the Reference 54 (alto and tenor) and Reference 36 (tenor only) which are sort of recreations of previously successful models (the MkVI and the BA respectively). All top quality models and it's down to personal preference which you like best.Sorry folks, this is probably a daft question from a beginner but I don't understand these different types of Selmer sax. When i go to a shop I see Selmer Mark II and Mark III alto's but no VI. I assume there is a range of Selmers, what is it and is one type generally perceved as better than another?
Sorry to be thick.
My personal opinion: In manufactoring a saxophone you need tools and machines. After some years the equipment is worn out. I think Selmer made some changes around 62-63. The earlier Selmer had a darker more mellow sound (but I can't hear it!!!) and a new brighter sound was in demand. So mabey around ten years was the lifecycle for thier tools? In the end of the Selmer MK VIs era Yamaha and Yangisawa made nearly as good or even better saxes. The Japanese was better in making tools and machines for saxophone manufactoring!!! The scale of a Yamaha 62 vas/is very even. If Selmer had continued manufactoring MK VI without investing in new models and teckhnolgy they had probably ended up like Conn and Buescher. More or less making studentsaxes.Just a thought, If the Selmer Mk6 sax was so good and everyone wants one, why did they stop making them and why don't they go back to that design? Anyone?
Regularly, the production methods improve, and you must keep in mind that it is all about market. For a similar quality/sound/playability, the manufacturer who produces in the most efficient way wins. And we know that Asiatic manufacturers are pretty good at it.Just a thought, If the Selmer Mk6 sax was so good and everyone wants one, why did they stop making them and why don't they go back to that design? Anyone?
could'nt agree with you more re the Yam 62 - or for even better value, a Yam 61 - for about a £1000, they are the business, especially when you see how much MKVI are going for - or is it a case of 'The King's New Clothes'?I think Selmer Mk VI became a succes in the 50's and 60's and sat the standard because:
- Best allround sax! Jazz, classical, Rock ......
- Good ergonomics. You could play faster!
- Contemporary sound! Brighter?
- Good construction! Cut hours at the tech. Easy to work on!
- Just one model!!! The MkVI. Easy to sell.
- The price was right, compared to other "pro-saxes"!
Beside that, there was a big market in USA after WWII for MK VI. Better to sell a Selmer and make money behind the desk instead of trying to construct, built and sell a pro-sax. Hard to get people in USA in the 50's to work on a line in at factory. Mass production, was the thing in USA!! USA ruled the world in those days. Marschall aid! USA pumped n lots of money in Europe.
So behind the Selmer MK VI succes it's perhaps more politics, money and social things instead of just a good sax. But it was a very good sax. I think a new Yamaha 62 is better than an old overpriced Selmer MK when it comes to playability VI!?!?!?!?!?!?