Well they are just laying here in my drawer so if you want one you have to do a donation. I don't want any money. A std BG bari(no cap) is around £ 30.00? The Revelation around is around £ 60.00 w cap. As I wrote they are unused but not the latest models. But ok to me. I use a BG std lig on my Dukoff bari mpc and I think they are good.Thank you and Thanks Thomas, I'll consider it if a ROvner doesn't turn up: btw how much are you asking for the BG Leather? You can PM me if you like!