Thanks for your reply Justin and thanks also to Kaiser, as I mentioned in my last post I have been doing a lot of research on the net and studied all the ones that everyone has suggested. There are quite a few used ones on e-bay and I had put several on my watch list and almost bought an HS** then I thought I'd be better off with 5RV or maybe a C85 115, I was thinking about a Graftonite but it seems that they are pitched at 440 instead of 442, then I spotted a D'Addario Reserve X10E, the E being for European or 442 apparently, it was also a good bit cheaper than some I'd seen for between £90 and £130 so I took the plunge and ordered it and it's on it's way and there's a returns policy if need be. Thanks again to all of you who for all your help and advice. Joe.