Reed Trimming

[Martin]

Does anyone trim their reeds?

I’ve been getting increasingly frustrated when I have to throw away a perfectly good reed simply because it has softened with playing. When the reed becomes too soft, my tone deteriorates and I start to get a hint of a squeak preceding some high notes, when I’m belting them out.

Last night I threw a perfectly good plasticover 2.5 in the bin after only one week, or less, of playing. Two minutes later, I fished it out and trimmed about 1mm off the end using a very sharp razor blade. To avoid losing the profile at the tip, I placed another reed against it, as a guide to follow while trimming. Well...what a fantastic result...it was like having a new reed...nice clear tone...no hint of a squeak...

Perhaps I’ll look into buying a reed trimmer. Does anybody else use one?

Martin

 

[SteveK]

I have a trimmer and do use it occasionally. But after I trim a reed I usually only use them for practise at home as I find they never quite regain the resonance of a new reed. I have tried adjusting after trimming but still have never got back to as good as a new one. But I know that many people (not least Oboe players) who do it all the time with good results.
Steve

 

[MartinL]

Does anyone trim their reeds?

I’ve been getting increasingly frustrated when I have to throw away a perfectly good reed simply because it has softened with playing. When the reed becomes too soft, my tone deteriorates and I start to get a hint of a squeak preceding some high notes, when I’m belting them out.

Last night I threw a perfectly good plasticover 2.5 in the bin after only one week, or less, of playing. Two minutes later, I fished it out and trimmed about 1mm off the end using a very sharp razor blade. To avoid losing the profile at the tip, I placed another reed against it, as a guide to follow while trimming. Well...what a fantastic result...it was like having a new reed...nice clear tone...no hint of a squeak...

Perhaps I’ll look into buying a reed trimmer. Does anybody else use one?

Martin

But if you trimmed a "Plastcover" then you broke the plastic and will allow wet to the reed inside, and as its covered, it wont dry again... not very healthy.
I would say that if you are going to trim then stick to the natural reeds.

 

[Pete Thomas]

Does anyone trim their reeds?

Trimming is a way to just squeeze that last bit of life. If it has gone too soft, chances are it hasn'r actually softened but has actually taken on an inherent curve, so trimming won't bring it back to its best.

So I don't bother with trimming

 

[Martin]

But if you trimmed a "Plastcover" then you broke the plastic and will allow wet to the reed inside, and as its covered, it wont dry again... not very healthy.
I would say that if you are going to trim then stick to the natural reeds.

Yes, that's true, trimming a plasticover does cut through the coating at the tip...but then I find that the coating will get damaged after playing one for a few weeks anyway...so I don't think it really makes any difference, as long as most of the moisture is kept out. Besides, water proof membranes are rarely 100% waterproof...some moisture will always pass through...I live on a boat and have plenty of examples of this.

Cheers,
Martin

 

[Martin]

Trimming is a way to just squeeze that last bit of life. If it has gone too soft, chances are it hasn'r actually softened but has actually taken on an inherent curve, so trimming won't bring it back to its best.

So I don't bother with trimming

I think the reed that I successfully trimmed was probably just too soft for me right from it's first day, so trimming it hardenned it up nicely. It was not a case of an old 'dead' reed being brought back to life.

Martin

 

[Pete Thomas]

Ah, OK fair enough.

But bare in mind that this is still not ideal as it would bring the heart of the reed closer to the tip, so upsetting the tradition shape. Having said that, if it improves the reed and works for you, go for it.

 

[griff136]

instead of buying a reed trimmer (never used one BTW) why not use the money to buy a fibracell reed it'l cost around £12 for a tenor reed and last longer than 2 or even 3 boxes of reed.

try one - you wont be disappointed

 

[SteveK]

I just started using a Hahn reed - quite like it so far for playing along side guitarists. Are Hahn reeds fibracell?

Steve

 

[Andante cantabile]

Paul Deville's Universal Method for the Saxophone has two pages on making your own reeds. I suppose that if you really want to know what inconsistent reed quality is all about, this is a good a place to start as any.

 

[griff136]

Steve, Hahn reeds are a synthetic reed but are made form Carbon Fibre I believe very much like the Harry Hartman reed. The fibracell reed it also syntheic but looks and feels like a reed.

BG also now make a syntetic reed which was on show at Frankfurt - I was lucky enough to have some samples brought back for me.

 

[Morgan Fry]

The trick to trimming reeds is that you have to thin the tip a little afterward. The cutter bends the fibres at the end just a bit so the burr needs to be shaved off to get it to behave properly. Perfectly reasonable to do to new reeds that are a bit too soft, but reeds that have been played out have more problems that just a thicker tip won't really solve.

I've got a day or two more use out of well-used reeds by soaking them in hydrogen peroxide for a few hours then drying them in the past FWIW. Might be worth a try.