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thomsax

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This is was I use for reed adjustment ( piece of glas, razor blade, reed cutter, fine sand paper. wet stone and a file).
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Colin the Bear

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I think every player should have a reed clipper. The resurrection device. I have one for all four sizes.

For adjusting I carry a Swiss army (Victorinox) knife. The blades are very good for scraping and the assortment of little gadgets are very useful for emergency or on the job repairs.

As a prelude to adjusting reeds it can be useful to just clean them. I like to clean off the starchy gunk, that some reeds exude, from both sides of a wet reed. It's surprising what a difference that alone can make.

It's important to say that mounting a perfectly flat and adjusted reed on an imperfect mouthpiece will have a less noticeable effect.

Don't forget, it's only the reeds that don't play we adjust. Leave well alone ;)
 

Pete Thomas

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Mmmmmm ........... I’m seriously tempted to go down the Legere route. Are the “Signature” Legeres so very different to other types ?
I found them to be totally different, not only to other model of legere but different to any other synthetic reed. But quite similar to Rico and other cane reeds.

(Disclaimer: I am a Legere endorser).
 
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I think every player should have a reed clipper. The resurrection device. I have one for all four sizes.

For adjusting I carry a Swiss army (Victorinox) knife. The blades are very good for scraping and the assortment of little gadgets are very useful for emergency or on the job repairs.

As a prelude to adjusting reeds it can be useful to just clean them. I like to clean off the starchy gunk, that some reeds exude, from both sides of a wet reed. It's surprising what a difference that alone can make.

It's important to say that mounting a perfectly flat and adjusted reed on an imperfect mouthpiece will have a less noticeable effect.

Don't forget, it's only the reeds that don't play we adjust. Leave well alone ;)
There are clippers ....... and there are clippers. I bought a cheap one from eBay and instead of neatly snipping, it seems to enlist the help of its friend, a bulldog apparently, whereupon the end of the reed is chewed, rendering it totally useless. Presumably there are decent ones on the market. What would you recommend for use on tenor reeds ?
 

sax panther

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There are clippers ....... and there are clippers. I bought a cheap one from eBay and instead of neatly snipping, it seems to enlist the help of its friend, a bulldog apparently, whereupon the end of the reed is chewed, rendering it totally useless. Presumably there are decent ones on the market. What would you recommend for use on tenor reeds ?
Cordier ones are good, but pricey - £40-£50. The cheap ebay ones are hit and miss.
 

nigeld

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I tried a cheap eBay one and it was useless.
Cordier and Pisoni are both expensive, but they work.
 

Colin the Bear

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There are clippers ....... and there are clippers. I bought a cheap one from eBay and instead of neatly snipping, it seems to enlist the help of its friend, a bulldog apparently, whereupon the end of the reed is chewed, rendering it totally useless. Presumably there are decent ones on the market. What would you recommend for use on tenor reeds ?

I'm using cordier. My alto and Baritone ones were acquired 30+ years ago and work fine. Tenor was second hand so no idea how old it is. I have tried the ebay ones. I got one for clarinet and soprano for £1.99 and it came with two boxes of reeds all the way from Shanghai, where they appear to recycle old scaffolding poles into woodwind reeds :confused:. The reeds and the clipper were virtually useless.

I've heard tell, on here of people using nail clippers. However, the baritone curve is too large for hand clippers and I don't imagine the reed tastes any better for using toe nail clippers.

You can burn a new edge on a clarinet reed by putting it between two old English half crown coins.

The scenario unfolds thus.

2nd clarinet to 1st clarinet "Have you got half a crown? I need to burn my reed"

1st clarinet to second clarinet "Here's a quid. Burn all of it" ;)
 

Jazzaferri

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One of the things about reed adjustment not often discussed is ensuring back is flat after playing for 5-10 minutes. Swelling under the thicker part of the vamp on teh back of the reed can make for a stuffy reed lacking in response. I found the reedgeek to be an excellent tool for this.

Hold reed up to light and use the sharp edge (not a flat side) to check for lateral and longitudinal flatness.
 

thomsax

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I use Regotti trimmer (soprano-bari) w regulator. I'm on plasticover reeds on tenor so I don't adjust reed so much these days. To make to back side of a reed flat use the file and the wet stone. I thik it's important to work on wet reeds. Let the reeds soak water for 15.20 min before you adjust them.
 

Thierry

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Thanks ......... the first phrase of your reply sounded a warning to me. You say, “If you know how to adjust redds ...... “. Well of course, I don’t know, but thought a ReedGeek might help me learn.
How does one go about learning to adjust reeds ? Who teaches such mysterious skills ?
Jay Metcalf of BetterSax.com just did a video about ReedGeek a few days ago. Check it out on YouTube, looks dead easy. Apparently also works with synthetic reeds such as Legere and Jay promised another video soon.
 

jazzsurfer

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Seasons Greetings to all of you out there in Saxophone land. I have been using Legere Signature reeds for a while now and I love them. However just before Christmas my family accidentally ruined two legere reeds in one day. My fault for leaving my sax on its stand without a reed guard on - and in front of a swivel chair. Both reeds were bent on the tip and unplayable (but I did try). Searching through the mountain of sax detritus I found a reed geek that I had bought some time ago. I also had loads of reeds that I had tried, disliked, and discarded so I thought that I would give the geek a serious go. I watched the videos, tried it out and discovered that it really works. I flatten the back first, and when I put it on the mpc (metal PPT 7*) I press the sides of the reed down on to the rails. Then with my thumb I press the reed onto the mpc and hold it there (a tip from Dan Forshaw). Ratty old reeds suddenly burst into life. Hardly played reeds start to sing. It really does work and has been a revelation. However, for gigs and sheer consistency I will buy some more Legere Signatures but the reed geek will certainly give some other options if my family strike again (are they trying to tell me something?).
 

Caz

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Ye - take Jays enthusiasme with a grain of salt, he's a sales guy (i think)
 

U CAN CALL ME AL

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Ye - take Jays enthusiasme with a grain of salt, he's a sales guy (i think)
@Caz can I ask for an honest answer? Have you owned/tried a reed geek or has anyone adjusted one of your dificult reeds with one.
I bought one a while back and use it on an almost daily basis, I find that it certainly improves playability and I now get almost 90% of purchased reeds to play well. I know that a number of players cannot be ar***d to spend time learning to or adjusting reeds which is their prerogative.
Personally I cannot be dismissive of a quite expensive tool which works well for me and has probably paid for itself over and over. If I felt it needed replacing or lost it I wouldn’t hesitate in getting another.
Simply my personal opinion as an average or there about sax player with no axe to grind.
Regards Al
 

Jazzaferri

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Mmmmmm ........... I’m seriously tempted to go down the Legere route. Are the “Signature” Legeres so very different to other types ?
Sorry I missed this post. I find the Signatures to be completely different. The other day I wanted to try a 2 1/2 on a mpce I just got. There were none in town so I bought a Studio Cut. Felt like a stuffy board, less responsive than the 3 that I was using.
 

Caz

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@Caz can I ask for an honest answer? Have you owned/tried a reed geek or has anyone adjusted one of your dificult reeds with one.
I bought one a while back and use it on an almost daily basis, I find that it certainly improves playability and I now get almost 90% of purchased reeds to play well. I know that a number of players cannot be ar***d to spend time learning to or adjusting reeds which is their prerogative.
Personally I cannot be dismissive of a quite expensive tool which works well for me and has probably paid for itself over and over. If I felt it needed replacing or lost it I wouldn’t hesitate in getting another.
Simply my personal opinion as an average or there about sax player with no axe to grind.
Regards Al
Yes, and i swapped it for razor blade - and for me it did the same thing. As i understand it, it is about closing the pores of the reed - a sharp knife will do just that.
 

saxyjt

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Yes, and i swapped it for razor blade - and for me it did the same thing. As i understand it, it is about closing the pores of the reed - a sharp knife will do just that.
Good for you. I still like my reed geek and use it almost daily. I had a difficult reed a couple of days ago. Leaked badly when I did a pop test. Checked the reed against the reed geek with light being and I clearly had a convex reed that needed flattening.

Problem sorted.

I have sharp knives, but I'm not sure they are straight and that's key.
 

U CAN CALL ME AL

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I bought the gauge and a Black Diamond G4 version which has a variety of shaped cutting edges that allow delicate removal of small areas of the vamp and tip as well as producing a flat table. I could not personally carry out this delicate adjustment with a cumbersome razor blade.
I cannot see how this closes the pores as removal of cane is more likely to open them up unless of course your blade is relatively blunt and acts as a burnisher.
Comme ditent les Francais a chacun son gout.
 

Caz

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Super, it still didn't do anything for me tho - but more power to you if it did :)

My intital comment went on Jay (and any other youtubers who claim to make unbiased product reviews). I like jay, he's an excellent teacher, but i quickly skip through his product reviews.
 
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