M/Pieces - Ligs PPT for soprano?

half diminished

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Hey Pete….

I'm on the verge of ordering a PPT for tenor, probably an 8* ( I use a Jody Jazz DV NY 7* and I'm looking for some extra bite/edge without losing out on the lower notes). I'll make my final decision after the Jazz workshop this coming weekend.

Anyhow, what I really want though is a decent mp for my R&C saxello. Any likelihood of a PPT for soprano being produced?
 

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...or one for alto?

I had a play of OGs Hanson ST8 this morning with his PPT and a fibracell reed. I'm not presently a teNor player and I'vE only played the ST8 and C9off's Muariat on occasion. However, I was suprised how smooth it felt and easy to produce notes over a wide range. Very responsive and played right down to pp without losing control of tone. I didn't push it above forte for fear of upsetting the serfs, villeins and other backstairs scurriers in OG Towers, but it had a lot more to go and it was quite easy for me, an inexperienced tenor player, to make a few little note bends.

So following Ian HDs request, when is there going to be an alto version as well? In the meantime I'm looking to get myself imminently something with a slightly wider tip opening than my Selmer Soloist C*, so a year or from now would be fine, Pete!
Colin
 

RedBottom

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I'd certainly put my name down for a sop piece. With a £200 sax, I'm not inclined to buy a mouthpiece that's worth as much as the horn, but I do like the sound of these on the 'big boys' and I'd make an exception for that. I like an edge to my tone, hence I play Lawtons, but I want something a little sweeter from the sop, and the PPT sounds ideal.
 

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The problem is getting enough made, I am really struggling to keep the waiting time for tenors down and have enough people on the baritone waiting list to give Ed a heart attack!

I did some earlier experimentation on an alto piece but until I can improve on my RPC and Selmer, there won't be an alto PPT, and the same applies to soprano. My main reason for making the PPT is to develop a mouthpiece that works for me better than what I have, until I can do that there won't be a soprano or alto. Sorry folks.
 

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Oh well, I'll just have to be patient and find something else. My local music shop has a decent range of Otto Link and Yamaha ebonites in stock, so I guess I'll have to pick out one of those for now. Sigh!
 

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I would recommend you get hold of a used Selmer Soloist C* and ask Ed Pillinger to reface it the same as he did mine. That's as close as there is to a PPT at the moment!
 

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I did email Ed Pillinger about taking down the baffle on my alto Vandoren Jumbo Java to move towards something like a PPT. Here is what Ed said to me in January:

"I too have worked on a Jumbo Java design to see if something fruitful could be obtained from similar modification, but so far I haven't been overwhelmed by this approach on an alto.

To answer your question though, I think that the Vandoren Jumbo Java is heaps better with a modification to both lower and deepen the baffle and make a smooth drop off earlier.

I could do this for you but I'm not sure I can guarantee you will be pleased with the result and I don't want you to waste money! I think another approach I am working on will probably turn out better, so why not hang on and just watch this space!
"

I'm still watching the space but may decide to try filing away the baffle myself and see what happens.

I think one point is that a mouthpiece design that works really well for tenor (like the PPT) may not be so great on soprano or alto.

Rhys
 

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I'm still watching the space but may decide to try filing away the baffle myself and see what happens.

I think one point is that a mouthpiece design that works really well for tenor (like the PPT) may not be so great on soprano or alto.
Correct. I tried this approach and I also think it won't work for alto. I would prefer to have a much lower baffle but with a slightly smaller chamber.

But then I might as well stick with a my Selmer.

I like my RPC on alto, but I don't think everyone would. You are welcome to try it if I bump into you at the workshop any time, but even if you like it there's no guarantee Ron would remember how to do another one like it!
 

old git

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I had a play of OGs Hanson ST8 this morning with his PPT and a fibracell reed. I'm not presently a teNor player and I'vE only played the ST8 and C9off's Muariat on occasion. However, I was suprised how smooth it felt and easy to produce notes over a wide range. Very responsive and played right down to pp without losing control of tone. I didn't push it above forte for fear of upsetting the serfs, villeins and other backstairs scurriers in OG Towers, but it had a lot more to go and it was quite easy for me, an inexperienced tenor player, to make a few little note bends.

So following Ian HDs request, when is there going to be an alto version as well? In the meantime I'm looking to get myself imminently something with a slightly wider tip opening than my Selmer Soloist C*, so a year or from now would be fine, Pete!
Colin
What YC failed to say was that he, a mere alto player, puffed the 9*.

If he keeps coming to OG Towers, borrowing my horn, RPC and PPT and playing better than me, I'll have to ask Mrs YC how much she has him assured for and is she willing to go fifty fifty?

Looking forward to your answer, Sandie.
 
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