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Can any of you pc guys tell me where to find pete's rendition of Harlem Nocturne that he posted on the site some time ago, thanks in anticipation....john
No sheet music, there would be copyright issues. The backing track may be possible though.Pete, any likelihood of the sheet music and a backing track for this one? I notice it's in the same key as the Hal Leonard version - Vol. 105 - Soulful Jazz, but yours has quite a different feel, nice and sleazy - and I mean that with all due respect.
Yeah, but wouldn't you really like to have the backing track too John? I figure if we can get a few of us to be real keen, Pete might just be persuaded to make it available ;}Hi Chris
Thanks for that I hadn't realised it was on midnight in the city which I already have a copy of,silly me....john
So technically and theoretically, publishing a transcribed solo with permission of the owner of the composition (NOT the player) is an infringement.
IANAL, but I'm surprised at that. It would seem to me that an improvised solo falls squarely within the definition of a derivative work at http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p22_derivative_works.en.htm. But I'm sure MCPS/PRS's legal advice is better than my ignorant guess. And of course, if my interpretation was correct, you'd need the composer's permission every time you wanted to improvise a solo!I have asked the MCPS/PRS who owns the copyright in an improvised solo and they were unequivocal that it's owned by the composer of the melody.
A minor quibble - I'm sure you meant to say "...without permission..."So technically and theoretically, publishing a transcribed solo with permission of the owner of the composition (NOT the player) is an infringement.
I suppose you must have the 42 versions list bookmarked on ebay then unfortunately Pete's isn't among them....johnHi John,
It's on Pete's latest CD: http://www.petethomas.co.uk/midnight.html
... And you can buy it from iTunes if you wanted just the one track. I bought Harlem Nocturne when Pete put it up to buy on his site, but I'm can't find that link anymore. I have a slight problem with this tune ever since Jules directed me to it all those years ago, I've started collecting versions!
Pete, any likelihood of the sheet music and a backing track for this one? I notice it's in the same key as the Hal Leonard version - Vol. 105 - Soulful Jazz, but yours has quite a different feel, nice and sleazy - and I mean that with all due respect.
All the best,
I just want to assertion I understand this correctly. To keep it simple, if I publish any of the transcriptions I’ve made of other artists on my website to be freely downloaded as a pdf file would in fact be an infringement of copyright.
i.e. I transcribed John Coltrane “Love Supreme” and it took me several weeks to do, but if I was to upload it to my website I would in fact be liable for a copyright infringement?
You can record any previously published composition and release as a CD, gramophone record or download, provided the mechanical licence is granted. It would make no difference whether you did a cover of Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep or A Love Supreme. Or a medley of the two. Actually, it may be different for medleys, I think you may need specific permission for a medley as opposed to getting an automatic licence from MCPS.However, if I was to record myself playing the transcription and upload it as a record then I wouldn’t be liable for any infringement?
It would, unless you got permission from the copyright owner. But again, doubtful they would take action, even if they noticed it.One other thing, if I was to say take “Love Supreme” and arrange it including the melody to a small degree, would I still be infringement to publish as a pdf file on my website?
That's what I was thinking about with my own arrangements. As it’s not like a transcription as everything has been re-arranged sufficiently enough to be different including the melody yet keeping the essence of the original score.Assuming that an artist creates personalised version of a song and it's a derivative work, wouldn't the original song copyright remain with the orignal owner, and the changes be the copyright of the artist?