Saxophones Not a Cigar Cutter, so what is it?

[DavidUK]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111191007955?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Seller says:

"...having looked it up it doesn't appear to have the cigar cutter on the octave key. However when I checked the serial number, 14265, it corresponds to a 1931 "Cigar Cutter" Super Sax."

Model 26?
Adolphe?
Too early a serial number for a Super?

Over to the experts....


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[Colin the Bear]

Smells of fish to me. Obviously not a player but seems to set great store by it playing beautifully. Valves? Ooooh and an otto link mouthpiece. How convenient. Vague blurred pictures of nothing. Caveat emptor.

 

[ProfJames]

Colin is giving good advice. One sale in the last twelve months, Port Isaac, listing serial number separately......smells to me as well.

 

[Saxdiva]

Not everyone with a low number of sales is bad - just means they aren't serial sellers. Don't get the issue with Port Isaac (what's wrong with folk from Cornwall?) or the convenience of an Otto Link mouthpiece, or not mentioning serial number - it's in the item specifics in the original listing. People list differently.

Take care always, common sense, but a few additional questions and requests for photos will tell you all you need to know. The serial number given is in the Selmer Cigar Cutter/Super period and the engraving looks appropriate. There were cross-overs and transitional periods with Selmer horns.

Just research and ask questions, then you will be judging from a point of knowledge.

 

[jazzdoh]

I think it could be a Selmer New Large Bore,it would be better if there were more pics and they were better quality.

 

[ProfJames]

Didn't imply that ALL people with low numbers are dodgy! It has transpired that a number of scams have been run from the Shetlands and Cornwall addresses - although not real addresses!

Agree with you - ask more questions and request more photos, info, etc. Listing the serial number is normally done by people who have sold several saxophones and not be people selling one sax per year. Just looks a little unusual but................good luck and I hope that the guy is ligit.

 

[DavidUK]

Colin is giving good advice. One sale in the last twelve months, Port Isaac, listing serial number separately......smells to me as well.

Maybe it's Doc Martin?

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[DavidUK]

I suggested the seller speak to Connolly-MIR as he bought it from MIR years ago. Seller replies:

"I've spoken to Matt and Charlie this morning, which was very informative. Charlie is familiar with this sax as I bought it from MIR originally. They said that saxes don't always fall into a definite category and can sometimes be a hybrid. They identified it as a "transition Cigar Cutter" Super Sax made in 1930. It also has some features of a 26, but the serial no. indicates that it is basically a Cigar Cutter without the characteristic octave mechanism. They spent a lot of time speaking to me and examining the photos. They liked the instrument and valued it at between 1000-1200 pounds. They said that it can be difficult sometimes to give an exact name to a model and gave examples of others, eg Mark VIs that fall outside the date range for that model. I have learnt a lot, so thank you for your comments."

 

[ProfJames]

Good. I'm glad he is legitimate. Looks like a nice sax then? Gonna buy it?

 

[DavidUK]

Good. I'm glad he is legitimate. Looks like a nice sax then? Gonna buy it?

No, I have my eye on something better than a Selmer. ;}

 

[ProfJames]

A Martin then....which one?

 

[Ads]

Martin, yeah Right....... it`s GOT to be a Jollysun , I`d settled for my pair of 62s because there was no way I couldn`t warrant a single Jollysun let alone both pitches as I`m not a full time pro player..

old Bueschers, Martins, Kings , Conns, etc are better off scrapped so more Jollysuns can be carefully handcrafted into the world to give billions of sax loving people the chance to hear one ...... I`m sure Dave Farley would have loved to have based the Andy Sheppard Autograph on the Famous Jollysun "Lidl" Tenor but no doubt Patents got in the way - the result is superb of course and is perfect for those who aspire to owning a real Jollysun but never will ..

If you`ve found either the Lidl Tenor David, I`d keep it quiet, you`ll get inundated with Sheppard Autograph owners wanting to upgrade (way out of my bracket) if its the even rarer Argos Alto then you`re well into the money .. there was a Sop Rumoured too painted pink but you know rumours .

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[DavidUK]

A Martin then....which one?

Lindo Professional. New to market.