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MandyH

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No doubt there is a good theoretical reason ... For the change from F# to Gb at [A]

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GCinCT

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There must be. I eagerly await the explanation.
 

Nick Wyver

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I doubt it. It's likely something the program (Sibelius or similar) did automatically for reasons of its own. It does seem particularly stupid.
 

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You’d need to see the rest of the score to see if there is a reason for the eharmonic change
 
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You’d need to see the rest of the score to see if there is a reason for the eharmonic change
I won’t get to see the score, but if I “feel” anything at tomorrow’s rehearsal, I’ll let you know!
 

Pete Thomas

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I’ve seen similar, but not with the one note just being a quaver which does seem stupid.

But when I have come across this with longer notes it was due to a change in harmony and in fact the intonation changed from F# to the Gb which caught me out at first.
 

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Errrr....ummmmm.......maybe the arranger thought there is a different fingering that would sound different
 

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I don’t know the actual arrangement but this would happen, and would be correct, if the chord changed from D major to Eb minor
 

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I've seen this with Sibelius, and very occasionally on my scores. I think that on the score there is an enharmonic change due to a chord spelling, and the arranger didn't check the actual transposed parts thoroughly. There's always some little error that you seem to miss, no matter how hard you try.
 
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Well, I didn’t feel anything!

But I won’t be playing it again!
I’ve been “promoted” ... from Tenor to Bari :cool:
 

tenorviol

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tbh this seems to be a common issue with modern arrangements where the parts are generated by a software package such as Sibelius from the score.
 

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I actually found the score for this arrangement and that enharmonic change from F# to Gb is not supported by the chord which is spelled E G Db over a C in the bass line. The chord does not change as it is tied over the bar.
 

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I actually found the score for this arrangement and that enharmonic change from F# to Gb is not supported by the chord which is spelled E G Db over a C in the bass line. The chord does not change as it is tied over the bar.
Then my speculation was wrong and that is just bad editing/copying.
 

tenorviol

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I play a lot of classical music and you' think the parts would be correct. It's amazing how often you find errors in the parts - Kalmus editions are particularly notorious it seems...

Although famously, back around early 2000s musicologists went to the original manuscripts to produce a new 'definitive' edition of the Beethoven symphonies. In the publisher's archives they found the originals, with Beethoven's proof-reading comments. None of his corrections had been applied to the published version, which went someway to explaining certain oddities... and there were some glaring note errors...
 
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