Tenorgold
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Hi All,
new member on here. Hoping for a bit of tec advise please.
I have only been playing for less than a year.
I'm quite good with all things DIY / enginnering, so I am also into the tec side of the saxophone as well as learning to play it.
The Yamaha YTS-23 that I have came as a rather beaten up example that I have done a number of repairs on, including all new pads.
However, the neck had obviously suffered a rather bad pull-down, and although a previous owner had obviously tried to straighten it, it is still looking quite shabby.
I was tempted to buy a new neck, but instead took a punt on one of the cheap necks from China. It needed a bit of fettling to get the neck to fit the tenon receiver on the sax, and a bit of adjustment to the octave key to make it work with the flush octave pin of the 23, but that seems to all work fine, and the gold lacquer finish does match the rest of the sax rather well.
The problem is the overall sax seems to be much more "unstable" when the octave key is pressed for high G (worst) and high A (slightly less), where it warbles between low G and high G, or low A and high A (I think!). It is possible to make this happen less by tightening my emboucheur, but with the original neck it just doesn't seem to do this at all.
I'm fairly sure both octave pads are sealing as required, and that the lower one is opening, and the upper closing correctly when blowing high G.
Looking more closely at the new neck, it does seem that the octave pip is a little bit further away from the body of the sax, i.e. nearer the mouthpiece, compared to the original Yamaha neck. Not much, but I wondered if this had something to do with it? The problem is, I can understand that affecting the high A, where the neck octave pip is open, but not the high G, where it is the body pip open.
I do have to push the mouthpiece on a long way to get it in tune, compared to the original neck, so maybe it is just that the new neck is a bit long, which also takes the neck octave pip further away from the body?
I'm still learning about the acoustics of the sax, but I get that the octave pips are a bit of a compromise, so this theory about the geometry seems plausible to me.
For what it cost, I am quite happy to play about with the neck geometry (for fun as much as anything!), including moving the neck octave pip if that would solve the problem.
Any advice gratefully received!
new member on here. Hoping for a bit of tec advise please.
I have only been playing for less than a year.
I'm quite good with all things DIY / enginnering, so I am also into the tec side of the saxophone as well as learning to play it.
The Yamaha YTS-23 that I have came as a rather beaten up example that I have done a number of repairs on, including all new pads.
However, the neck had obviously suffered a rather bad pull-down, and although a previous owner had obviously tried to straighten it, it is still looking quite shabby.
I was tempted to buy a new neck, but instead took a punt on one of the cheap necks from China. It needed a bit of fettling to get the neck to fit the tenon receiver on the sax, and a bit of adjustment to the octave key to make it work with the flush octave pin of the 23, but that seems to all work fine, and the gold lacquer finish does match the rest of the sax rather well.
The problem is the overall sax seems to be much more "unstable" when the octave key is pressed for high G (worst) and high A (slightly less), where it warbles between low G and high G, or low A and high A (I think!). It is possible to make this happen less by tightening my emboucheur, but with the original neck it just doesn't seem to do this at all.
I'm fairly sure both octave pads are sealing as required, and that the lower one is opening, and the upper closing correctly when blowing high G.
Looking more closely at the new neck, it does seem that the octave pip is a little bit further away from the body of the sax, i.e. nearer the mouthpiece, compared to the original Yamaha neck. Not much, but I wondered if this had something to do with it? The problem is, I can understand that affecting the high A, where the neck octave pip is open, but not the high G, where it is the body pip open.
I do have to push the mouthpiece on a long way to get it in tune, compared to the original neck, so maybe it is just that the new neck is a bit long, which also takes the neck octave pip further away from the body?
I'm still learning about the acoustics of the sax, but I get that the octave pips are a bit of a compromise, so this theory about the geometry seems plausible to me.
For what it cost, I am quite happy to play about with the neck geometry (for fun as much as anything!), including moving the neck octave pip if that would solve the problem.
Any advice gratefully received!