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Tommy Ng

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I bought a jupiter 500 tenor recently (ebay) and it comes with a Jupiter 4C mpc. The middle D/E are quite dull and can't be pushed.

Am looking for a new mouthpiece and need some advice. I emailed saxophone.co.uk and was suggested the following:

Yani
Jodyjazz
Ponzol (???)
Vandoren V16

I like bright and buzzy sound. At the moment i am OK with selmer D on sop and selmer C* on alto. I am not used to very wide tip.

Can anyone suggest a mpc that gives bright/buzzy sound without a very wide tip??

:thankyou:
 

Moz

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I like bright and buzzy sound. At the moment i am OK with selmer D on sop and selmer C* on alto. I am not used to very wide tip.

Can anyone suggest a mpc that gives bright/buzzy sound without a very wide tip??

:thankyou:
Not sure you can get a bright and especially buzzy sound without going for a wider tip opening. Have a listen to Officer Dibble here

http://martin-j.webs.com/thevariousassortments.htm

and tell me if this is the sound you are after. If so I'll tell you how to get it.

Cheers

Martin
 
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Tommy Ng

Tommy Ng

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Not sure you can get a bright and especially buzzy sound without going for a wider tip opening. Have a listen to Officer Dibble here

http://martin-j.webs.com/thevariousassortments.htm

and tell me if this is the sound you are after. If so I'll tell you how to get it.

Cheers

Martin
Hi Martin

Nice songs.. did you do trumpet, sax, and singing???
 
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daveysaxboy

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I 2nd the Jumbo java choice.I got 2 for alto and there the best for me on alto sound i had,very easy player's,huge sound.Bright but not shrill bright as a metal high baffle piece.These are fantastic.Not tryed the jumbo tenor piece but heard clips of them and they sound great.Very good price also.
 
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Tommy Ng

Tommy Ng

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I am getting more confused with tip opening vs brightness.

Amongst all the jumbo jaya mpcs, T45 has the smallest tip opening but gives the brightest sound (from the description).

Should it not the other way round?

:confused:
 

jonf

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Tip opening and brightness are not necessarily related. Years ago I had a bronze tenor Berg Larsen, with a pretty narrow 90 tip opening, and that was as bright as anything. What actually creates brightness is the internal shape of the mouthpiece, particularly the baffle and tone chamber relationships. It is possible to get a very bright mouthpiece with a narrow tip opening.
 

Pete Thomas

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Tip opening and brightness are not necessarily related.
I agree. I think that it's hard to pin down all the factors as they may interact with each other, e.g. with a certain type or size of baffle or chamber then tip opening size may make a difference, whereas it doesn't with others.

Tip opening by itself also is not so meaningful as the length and curve of the facing has a marked effect on how different tip openings feel or sound.

No easy answers IMO.
 

thomsax

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I think ...

... tip opening and mouthpiece chamber area gives more or less volume. A big opening and large chamber was the thing for the R&B honkers in 50's. There was no PA/amplification to talk about in those days and they had to be heard in the Roadhouses.

... design/shape of the chamber and facing regulate dark vs bright, edgy vs spread, focused vs less focused ... Why can't we agree about a standard when it comes to terms about saxsound? :confused:

Thomas
 

Morgan Fry

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as regards tip opening and brightness -- all other things being equal, a wider tip opening will play less bright. This is mainly because the baffle is functionally lower with a wider tip. OTOH, all other things are never equal.

As for recommendations for a bright and buzzy piece, the Jumbo Java is a good place to start.
 
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