Music and non-music

[Ne0Wolf7]

Somehow, I managed to find an incredibly obscure performance on bass saxophone. I can't begin to interpret it and really think it's just noise, but that brings up an interesting discussion about contemporary music: at what point does it become noise?
The slap tounge is far from traditional, but can be implemented in ways that can, as I see it, musically enhance a performance. Polyphonics, although great to drive your friends mad with, just sounds bad to me and isn't really a tone, but a pointless noise.
It is my opinion that just because you are using an instrument to make sound, you are not necciceraly making music and that in order to be music, it must be at the very least coherant and understandable. This peice, ancestral, does not make my cut. Do I think it's cool? A little. Do I recognize the performer as skilled? Of course, I just really didn't like what she did.
I'd like to hear your opinions, regarding not only this peice but what you would consider the point music turns to noise in general.
Anyhow, here is the song so you can give it a listen:

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View: https://youtu.be/fKmX625RrhU

 

[kevgermany]

Not for me, sorry

 

[Veggie Dave]

Is it music? Yes. In fact, this type of atmospheric music is used daily in dramas and films around the world. You can make a seriously good living writing music like this. You can even win Oscars. One of its main advantages is that it's incredibly evocative without having a discernible/distracting rhythm that can take the viewer's imagination away from the images on the screen.

It's not something I'd usually listen to sans images but it is music.

 

[Andrew Sanders]

Great music tells a story and this set my imagination alight..... for a short while then I got bored. So music yes, great music no.

 

[Halfers]

She's a one girl band,
nobody knows, nor understands
Is there anybody out there going to lend her a hand,
with her one girl band..

Or is Scott Walker making a new album? I like this atmospheric stuff.

She can fake musicality when She really wants to!

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYELIcExu9I

 

[JayeNM]

...the larger question:

Is it Improvisation ?

(ducks head, runs for cover)

 

[JayeNM]

But honestly...I kinda enjoyed that.

Evocative.

(Yeah, yeah, even sans the visuals, I was enjoying it)

 

[Veggie Dave]

She is rather good, isn't she!

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

I didn't know that atmospheric music was a genre, I would be thought of it as sound effects.
The Smith Fantasia is one of my favourites but the way.

 

[Ne0Wolf7]

...the larger question:

Is it Improvisation ?

(ducks head, runs for cover)

I wouldn't be too surprised if the composer was experimenting and though "That sounds cool!" and wrote it out

 

[Targa]

Could be improved by having Yoko on vocals.

 

[Nick Wyver]

That was really nice. Thanks for posting it.

 

[Dibbs]

...the larger question:

Is it Improvisation ?

(ducks head, runs for cover)

I doubt it. She's got 2 music stands with dots on them. I'd imagine it's 100% written out.

 

[Dibbs]

I enjoyed it. Some days I wouldn't, but today I'm in the right mood.

As for music vs. noise. Also consider at what point noise becomes music.

I was once walking near a building site where a pile driver was bashing away in slow 1/1 time. Definitely noise. However, I could hear the hammer hit and an a couple of strong echoes a while after. As I walked down the street the timing of the original sound and the echoes kept subtly changing. The effect was akin to Steve Reich's clapping music.

 

[Ivan]

At least she doesn't look like she's going to pop unlike Colin Stetson

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[jazzdoh]

Thanks for posting, she is good, the second video i enjoyed more but liked the first as well,different but thats ok.That bass sax looks great, although my back and my bank balance couldn't handle it.

 

[Jazzaferri]

I enjoyed listening to all the clips (only a little bit of the last one though. Time constraints more than anything.

The first clip I would call Sonic Art. To me to be called music, there must be some elements of melody,

 

[Halfers]

I doubt it. She's got 2 music stands with dots on them. I'd imagine it's 100% written out.

The Composers name is on the Youtube title - Thierry Alla. There is another version on Youtube as well as other examples of his work.

 

[Colin the Bear]

I enjoyed it. Some days I wouldn't, but today I'm in the right mood.

As for music vs. noise. Also consider at what point noise becomes music.

I was once walking near a building site where a pile driver was bashing away in slow 1/1 time. Definitely noise. However, I could hear the hammer hit and an a couple of strong echoes a while after. As I walked down the street the timing of the original sound and the echoes kept subtly changing. The effect was akin to Steve Reich's clapping music.

Passing a site, an old petrol cement mixer caught my ear. The motor had a misfire and the load was making it wobble. It was almost a dance track.

 

[jazzdoh]

At least she doesn't look like she's going to pop unlike Colin Stetson

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Took some time to watch this, didn't watch it all, but enjoyed what i watched, thanks for posting.