Mouthpieces Mouthpiece question

[Ron123]

Hi

Bit of advice please, as a begginer would you think I would benefit from changing my tj Esprit Bari tenor mouthpiece to a Yamaha 4c?

Ron

 

[ProfJames]

Not really. Both good mouthpieces.

 

[jonf]

No, probably not. Both are good basic mouthpieces for learning on. The best thing you can do is just practice as much as you can.

 

[SaxDon]

Both good beginner pieces. Probably better to hang on, practice and maker a bigger leap to something hard rubber (Selmer C*, Jody jazz HR etc.) when you're ready.

 

[Ron123]

Hi
Thank you all for your advice, very helpful.

Ron

 

[kevgermany]

Agree with the above, with one reservation. Are you having trouble with the Esprit? If so what?

 

[Jeanette]

Stay with what you have unless as Kev says you are having problems 🙂

Jx

 

[Jay]

I liked the Bari Esprit best of the 'beginner' mouthpieces I had - also on a tenor.

 

[Ron123]

Hi
Being a begginer yes I'm having some problems!! I just wanted to check that I was not playing with a mouthpiece that everybody said you MUST replace it! Again thanks for the advice everybody.

Ron

 

[Jeanette]

What sort of problems? I had a bari esprit on sop loved the tone but found it quite resistant.

Jx

 

[Alc.]

Yamaha 4c is perfect for beginner, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to go higher right away. Also use lower strength reeds to start, Yamaha 4c with a #1 or 1 1/2 reed. If it feels good, do it. The important thing is to play. Do not rush...you might find that what you begin with will suffice for a very long time. Just enjoy and keep at it. You might never have to change a thing...until GAS creeps in. But try to wait on that, if you can...I think the nurses are looking for me.

 

[kevgermany]

Hi
Being a begginer yes I'm having some problems!! I just wanted to check that I was not playing with a mouthpiece that everybody said you MUST replace it! Again thanks for the advice everybody.

Ron

Could be you, could be the sax, could be a faulty mouthpiece. You need someone to check the sax/mouthpiece.

 

[ProfJames]

Go and see a tutor!

 

[Ron123]

Hello

I will be seeing my tutor on Wed. I just wanted to get the unbiased views of of this forum!! regarding a Bari Esprit mouthpiece.

Ron

 

[ProfJames]

Hello

I will be seeing my tutor on Wed. I just wanted to get the unbiased views of of this forum!! regarding a Bari Esprit mouthpiece.

Ron

Appreciate your comments Ron and you are right to ask. My suggestion is that your tutor can see you playing and hear your sound. He is far more capable of discussing and building a critique of your embouchure than we are!

Even the very talented professionals and teachers on this forum cannot give you better advice than your tutor. Let us know what he says and keep blowing!

 

[Jeanette]

Even the very talented professionals and teachers on this forum cannot give you better advice than your tutor. Let us know what he says and keep blowing!

Not sure I entirely agree with this statement depends on the tutor. But granted they should certainly be consulted and are best placed to see first hand where any issue may be.

After that ask here, read the replies and make your own mind up 🙂

Jx

 

[Colin the Bear]

I've tried a bari Esprit for tenor , alto and sop. They're an easy blow with an acceptable sound. They seem quite consistent and well made. Great to start out on, but when you get some chops and know what you want, sound and feel wise, there are mouthpieces that will suit your individual requirements better. When you feel that you have more to give than the mouthpiece will allow is the time to change. The Yam is no better or worse. It's also a well made consistent piece. Having said that, changing mouthpieces can sometimes confirm for you that it's not the mouthpiece that's the problem and make you increase your efforts and put in the practice time.

 

[ProfJames]

Not sure I entirely agree with this statement depends on the tutor. But granted they should certainly be consulted and are best placed to see first hand where any issue may be.

After that ask here, read the replies and make your own mind up 🙂

Jx

I have only read one bad post about a tutor on this forum. A tutor has to be better placed to answer Ron's questions and to give advice. It is also hard to make your own mind up when you are learning, much better to get trained professional first hand advice from your tutor. But also agree with you Jeanette.....................come back for advice! 🙂

 

[Jeanette]

I have only read one bad post about a tutor on this forum. A tutor has to be better placed to answer Ron's questions and to give advice. It is also hard to make your own mind up when you are learning, much better to get trained professional first hand advice from your tutor. But also agree with you Jeanette.....................come back for advice! 🙂

Tutors as the with the pros and members on here all have their own idiosyncrasies some are set on certain horns, some have little interest in changing mouthpieces (rare I know) etc............. They will base their opinion, as we all do on their own experiences and hard as it is as a beginner you have to weigh it all up and learn what suits you. 🙂

All part of the fun and journey, keep an open mind

Jx

 

[ProfJames]

Wise words Jeanette. I have a plethora of mouthpieces!