Mouthpieces Mouthpiece Identification

Taz · Mar 29, 2009

I asked this question on the old forum but never got around to posting any pictures. I know that one of them is an Earlham and its a number 8. The other is more of a mystery. The only thing thats writen on it is A1.
Any ideas?

TomMapfumo · Mar 30, 2009

Its a "Lawless Nutcrusher NR11*". I am sure that David Keighley has one somewhere - 3rd draw down in his 2nd Mouthpiece Chest, if I am not mistaken.

Kind regards
Tom😎

daveysaxboy · Mar 30, 2009

TomMapfumo said:
Its a "Lawless Nutcrusher NR11*". I am sure that David Keighley has one somewhere - 3rd draw down in his 2nd Mouthpiece Chest, if I am not mistaken.

Kind regards
Tom😎

Just checked,it's in my 4th draw down.Nearly right though:welldone

Taz · Mar 30, 2009

TomMapfumo said:
Its a "Lawless Nutcrusher NR11*". I am sure that David Keighley has one somewhere - 3rd draw down in his 2nd Mouthpiece Chest, if I am not mistaken.

Kind regards
Tom😎

Thanks Tom, any idea on value? I tried googling it but got nowhere. Is Lawless the manufacturer? :confused:

TomMapfumo · Mar 30, 2009

You might want to PM David - I think Phil Barone used to stock them but they no longer appear on his website. The nearest mouthpiece he makes is the Jazz, which produces a very husky sound.

Good Luck
Tom😎

Laura-Rose · Mar 30, 2009

my mouthpiece doesnt have anything stamped on it! 🙁

ManEast · Mar 30, 2009

Taz said:
I asked this question on the old forum but never got around to posting any pictures. I know that one of them is an Earlham and its a number 8. The other is more of a mystery. The only thing thats writen on it is A1.
Any ideas?

Hi Taz
I have no idea what that A1 is...... but it look's like(Otto Link) my kind of M.P.

Regards

ManEast

Moz · Mar 31, 2009

ManEast said:
Hi Taz
I have no idea what that A1 is...... but it look's like(Otto Link) my kind of M.P.

Regards

ManEast

Not an Otto Link, the black plastic inlay is the wrong shape and is too far from the tip.

ManEast · Mar 31, 2009

Moz said:
Not an Otto Link, the black plastic inlay is the wrong shape and is too far from the tip.

Hi Moz
I was not suggesting for one minute that it was a Link... more in the style of. It is also remenisant of an 40's style Dukoff which in turn was based on the New York Link of the Nr same period.
As i said before I have no idea who the maker is,but the old style Link is deffinatly where this is coming from.

Have a look http://www.theowanne.com/mouthpieces101/Duckoff.php

I have been after, for quite some time either one of the above mentioned mouthpeices,(New York Link or 40's Dukoff)but I have never found one that was up to the mark (for me that is.) So if you know of anybody out there that has one for sale please let me know, I am quite willing to travel... but i always try before i buy.

My kind regards
ManEast

P.S TO TAZ Any way we can have a pic looking down inside the tail end?

daveysaxboy · Mar 31, 2009

It look's like a WAGNER SLIM PROFILE BODY,Wagner was a German mouthpiece maker ,he made mp's for Keithwerth also.I have a SLIM BODY HR Alto mp which is a rare J.KEILWERTH TONEKING SPECIAL 6 made by WAGNER and what a funk mp it is ,very free and loud with lot's of juice.Rollover Baffle.

daveysaxboy · Mar 31, 2009

2 MORE.look's very much the same,remember this is an Alto Hard rubber.Hop tis help's and solve's your puzzle.;}

ManEast · Mar 31, 2009

dave keighley said:
2 MORE.look's very much the same,remember this is an Alto Hard rubber.Hop tis help's and solve's your puzzle.;}

Hi Dave
You could be on track with that... I had a H.R tenor M.P the same as yours. Had to bin it 🙁 Very bad Taste in mouth.

ManEast

daveysaxboy · Mar 31, 2009

ManEast said:
Hi Dave
You could be on track with that... I had a H.R tenor M.P the same as yours. Had to bin it 🙁 Very bad Taste in mouth.

ManEast

My JK Toneking Special is some piece.For a HR it's so open and free but a great Maceo Parker type vibe in the sound.There's stuff on site's about WAGNER who's piece's are hand made.It look's very,very close to Taz's piece only his is metal.

daveysaxboy · Mar 31, 2009

Forgot to mention your Earlham mp is a cheap Chinese copy of a Guardala studio and also sell under the name ARBITER and most likely other name's,I had the silverplate Arbiter 8 which was exactly the same piece i got free with a sax .

cmelodysax · Apr 2, 2009

Still not sure there is a connection with the 'mystery' mouthpiece, but (as has been said before) here's a tenor Wagner (top) and a tenor JK Toneking (bott.). Very similar looking 'slant' where the back end of the body narrows down to the shank.

ManEast - don't bin the old rubber mouthpieces, they can be cleaned and sealed with something like carnauba wax (non toxic) to reduce the sulphur taste right down. The top mouthpiece has had the treatment. Very playable. I use the same stuff to renovate my (smoking) pipe mouthpieces, that's where I got the idea.