Mouthpieces Modification of Yamaha 4C mouthpiece

[teebones]

Here are some picture's of my modified yamaha 4c mouthpiece. :shocked:

First the mouthpiece ligature shank was machined parallel, then five groves cut to retain the O rings.

On testing the mouthpiece with just two O rings fitted as seen in one of the picture's the sound appear's to be more fatter and mellow.

For reference the O rings as seen are white noephrene as used in the food industry.

Next modification will be stainless steel shims between the reed and mouthpiece. (to make the mouthpiece more open).

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[Pete Thomas]

Looks very interesting. Well done!

I think stainless steel shims amy be odd as there will be a bit of a drop off where the facing curve starts. You could instead just machine the table a bit at an angle which will have the effect of making the tip larger and allow you to round the curve off smoothly at the point table end of the facing.

 

[Saxlicker]

Nice job!
And inexpensive and value for money blank for the experiment.
Serious thought though,
The 4C is so often mentioned that I wonder if many people think past it and realise that wider tips exist?
I have a 6C for example.

 

[teebones]

Looks very interesting. Well done!

I think stainless steel shims amy be odd as there will be a bit of a drop off where the facing curve starts. You could instead just machine the table a bit at an angle which will have the effect of making the tip larger and allow you to round the curve off smoothly at the point table end of the facing.

Thanks for hint Pete about machining the mouthpiece table. as I have some other intended modification work on the mouthpiece table, that can be done at the same time.

Sometime next week I plan to go to the engineering suppliers and get some more size's of O rings both in width and diameter.

O rings are even cheaper than chips

Maybe the new cheap Ligature's 🙂))

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[Justin Chune]

I think that shims of the sort you describe are already available in plastic.

Jim.

 

[Sunray]

Polite Snip ------------ 8< ------------

O rings are even cheaper than chips

Teebones another

But they taste "orrible" Tony ...

They will never replace "the good ole" Chip Butty ... 🙂))

 

[teebones]

Nice job!
And inexpensive and value for money blank for the experiment.
Serious thought though,
The 4C is so often mentioned that I wonder if many people think past it and realise that wider tips exist?
I have a 6C for example.

Hi Saxlicker, the reason behind the modification of the yamaha 4C alto mouthpiece (it has been used + as you said cheap to replace if a disaster happened when turning the mouthpiece)

I have other mouthpiece's I will be using rico, etc all fairly cheap to replace, also metal mouthpiece's now I know the O ring ligature works.

Looking at this as a engineer there are not any mouthpiece's this modification could not be applied to.

The next mouthpiece to have the modification this week is my tenor sax mouthpiece which I believe is a yamaha 5 or 6C



If enough interest is shown in this project a pass around would be considered using two new
yamaha mouthpiece's alto and tenor with Pete getting first call


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[Nick Wyver]

But they taste "orrible" Tony ...

Perhaps squid then?

 

[allansto]

yeh nick
and when you get abit peckish?????????????
better buy spares.