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mpjbiker

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Hi all, when I'm gigging, I like to use a clip-on mic, cos standing in the same position gives me backache, and I like to move about a bit. Whether we're doing our own sound or someone else is doing it, the levels are set for brass backing, so when I need to solo, the volume is the same and consequently too low to be heard over the band. Just blowing louder just leads to overblowing and sore lips. Is there something like a foot operated control which I could plug in between the mic and the p.a, to give me a bit more control of my volume? I hate electronics-lately sound checks seem to take forever, and still seem to be a waste of time! How nice it is to play acoustically in small venues, just turn up and play, enjoy it, then go home (rant over!),
Cheers!
 

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There are many guitar pedal switches out there with gain control and a host of other effects that can be used with the sax simply using a patch lead. The one I bought to use with a portable PA system which didn't have reverb control cost less than £20 quid and also had a gain control.
 

mpjbiker

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Thanks, Al-I don't even know what a patch lead is! My mic uses an xlr lead to plug into the pa-I assumed guitar effects pedals would be standard jack plugs? Apologies if I'm being dense!
 

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Most pedals use standard jack plugs to connect. There are all sorts of cables and connecter adaptations that will allow you to connect differing types.
 

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You can get a voice effects pedal, e.g. Digitech Vocal 300 which costs about 100 quid and takes xlr connections - loads of effects on it and probably overkill for just a bit of gain, but why not add some nice juicy reverb for your feature spots as well?
 

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Yep, I used one of these for several years before going wireless. A good, well made, piece of kit!
Attach it to the strap using cable ties, with the mic lead over your right shoulder (again attached with cable ties).
The service from the vendor is first class (I received mine within a couple of days of ordering!).
 

mpjbiker

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:)Don't suppose you'd like to sell it? Tried to PM you, but your inbox is full! Does it still work with a condensor i.e it needs phantom power from the desk?
 
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johnboy

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Hi mpj, I'm sorry but I'm keeping it as a standby, just in case.
My spare mic. is a dynamic, and as the vol. control is a pot, I can't see any reason why it shouldn't be ok with any mic.
Email the guy and ask, you'll get a prompt reply. This guy knows how to run his business!!!!!

Keeeeep Rockin'
 

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You can get a voice effects pedal, e.g. Digitech Vocal 300 which costs about 100 quid and takes xlr connections - loads of effects on it and probably overkill for just a bit of gain, but why not add some nice juicy reverb for your feature spots as well?
Do you use this and what's the rest of your set up dooce?
 

mpjbiker

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I e-mailed Greg Heumann of blowsmeaway.com products-his devices don't work well with phantom power, apparently, doh!
 

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I use one from Greg on my condenser. It is not the normal one, its specially for phantom power. It does work, but not as well as the dynamic job. You can raise and lower volume quite well, but you cant shut it down. I set it to middle, set my mixer volume to a happy medium then use the mic dial to adjust. I am very happy with it. Greg did advise it wasn't as good as the other ones I have, but its fine as long as you don't need to shut off completely.

Hello Johnboy, how are you and where have you been?
Cheers
Mike
 

Pete Thomas

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I think most volume pedals would need to be connected after the mic preamp, so if the mic is plugged direct into the desk's preamps, you must check that you get something that will work on a mic level.

As mentioned, you need to know if the mic has phantom power or not to check if the pedal is OK.

The digitech 300 looks like the best option to me.
 

altissimo

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assuming you don't have a sound engineer who can be trusted to turn you up when it's your turn to solo...

you could use a portable mic pre amp that has phantom power and a volume control - or one suggestion I saw on the internet would be if the mixer has insert sockets for each channel, plug a guitar volume pedal into the insert using a stereo jack to 2 mono jack Y lead.
There are also switchable in line attenuators that have -10db pads on them. None of the in line passive volume controls I've seen are suitable for use with phantom power due to the power running down the same wires as the signal - if you attenuate the signal you also affect the phantom power voltage
 

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