Louder vocal mic

[zootsaxenberger]

I know that this is a bit random but,one of the bands i play in, (i play in several, have to earn a crust) i share lead vocals with a girl singer, and also i sing backing vocals.
However i am finding it a bit hard to compete volume wise because she is using a Shure Beta
mic whilst i am still using an old beat up unidyne.
does anyone have any suggestions? i am trying to save for an effects unit so i am thinking lower end.
my local music shop suggested JTS tm929 anyone tried these?

 

[Chris98]

Hi Zootsaxenberger,

First, I have no experaince with the JTS tm929 but at £20 it's unlikely to 'compete' with the Shure Beta (which ever model it might be).

When you say you are struggling with volume, are you maxed out on the gain control on the input of the mixer/PA and the fader all the way up? Unless the unidyne is pushing out a very piddly signal it sounds more like the balance between you and the singer is wrong.

Each channel should have a gain control on it and this should be adjusted so that when the fader is set to 0, the signal should read 0 on the meters (Analogue only, for digital it should be at around -12dB or maybe lower).

You do this for each channel, which means that your signal and her signal are the same strength. Then using the only the faders you adjust the overall mix so that the instruments and vocals are in balance with each other.

Best wishes,

Chris

 

[zootsaxenberger]

Hi Zootsaxenberger,

First, I have no experaince with the JTS tm929 but at £20 it's unlikely to 'compete' with the Shure Beta (which ever model it might be).

When you say you are struggling with volume, are you maxed out on the gain control on the input of the mixer/PA and the fader all the way up? Unless the unidyne is pushing out a very piddly signal it sounds more like the balance between you and the singer is wrong.

Each channel should have a gain control on it and this should be adjusted so that when the fader is set to 0, the signal should read 0 on the meters (Analogue only, for digital it should be at around -12dB or maybe lower).

You do this for each channel, which means that your signal and her signal are the same strength. Then using the only the faders you adjust the overall mix so that the instruments and vocals are in balance with each other.

Best wishes,

Chris

Hello chris.

Firstly my local music shop are selling this mic foe close to £50, so maybe i did the right thing putting this on the forum.
as to the rest the band uses a mackie pa and although the sound guy seems to get the balance about right,when we get into the more raucous numbers i have to push my voice to compete with hers and therefore by the end of the evening i get very hoarse.

 

[Filton]

£50 . . ? You can pick up the SM48 (Sure) for around that price . .

 

[zootsaxenberger]

£50 . . ? You can pick up the SM48 (Sure) for around that price . .

yeah i guess i need to look around a bit more, i thought that it would be an easy task but there seem to be so many different options and i am reallly feeling spoiled for choice

 

[ManEast]

Hi

I would try to pick up a Beta 58 secondhand. That is a very good mike and you will not shake it down with something cheap.

 

[zootsaxenberger]

Hi

I would try to pick up a Beta 58 secondhand. That is a very good mike and you will not shake it down with something cheap.

Thank you ManEast.
i will add this to my list of possibles.

zoot.

 

[jonf]

I'd suggest a Shure SM58, they're good and as tough as old boots. You can get a new one for about ninety quid and a used one for £50 to £70. It'll be all the mike you need for stage work, and will last as long as you will.

 

[thomsax]

We have JTS PDM 3 and JTS PDM 57 as extra microphones (my own microphone is a Shure SM 57). They are good. You have a really trained ear if you can hear the differnce between JTS and Shure. But I think Shure is better built/quality. Feels better. So after all a new Shure or used is cheaper in the long run. The JTS TM-929 is cheaper than JTS PDM 3. Both are vocal microphones but also good for sax.

Thomas

 

[Chris98]

Hello,

Be aware that there are apparently a lot of counterfeit Shure mics floating around out there, so be weary of any deals that sound too good to be true. http://www.shure.co.uk/company/shure_anti_counterfeiting_initiative

I have a Shure Beta 57 that is excellent at capturing the dubious tone of my saxophone.

Best wishes,

Chris

 

[Nick Wyver]

Sennheiser have a pretty good range of mics. I've got an e845s which is robust and sounds good.

 

[zootsaxenberger]

I'd suggest a Shure SM58, they're good and as tough as old boots. You can get a new one for about ninety quid and a used one for £50 to £70. It'll be all the mike you need for stage work, and will last as long as you will.

thank you,
i have been thinking about SM 58s

 

[zootsaxenberger]

I have seen a number of SM 58s on ebay, but now i am wondering if i should risk makin a bid!

 

[zootsaxenberger]

Sennheiser have a pretty good range of mics. I've got an e845s which is robust and sounds good.

Hello Nick, is this a vocal or instrument mic?

 

[kevgermany]

Best not, unless you can be sure the seller is genuine AND that you can tell the real thing from the fakes.

 

[zootsaxenberger]

Best not, unless you can be sure the seller is genuine AND that you can tell the real thing from the fakes.

Yeah i guess this is a classic case of "buyer beware"

 

[Nick Wyver]

Hello Nick, is this a vocal or instrument mic?

Hi! Works ok for either.

 

[zootsaxenberger]

Hi! Works ok for either.

Thanks Nick i will take a look, any idea of price?

 

[ManEast]

The SM58 is a vocal mic and the SM57 is for instruments. They are use by lots of people
for both, but neither have the output or sparkle of the Beta.

 

[ManEast]

The SM58 is a vocal mic and the SM57 is for instruments. They are use by lots of people
for both, but neither have the output or sparkle of the Beta.


If you want to try very good but cheap Beta copy look here-

http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mb85_beta.htm