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All suggestions welcome.
So far.
Francois Louis for HR ..
Vandoren masters...
The Faxx Slimline Baritone lig
 

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Rovner lights fit baritone and soprano. I'd hazard a guess they fit tenor too.
 

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They do but this is the lig I`ve been having squeak problems with, i think it`s down to the outer band not being tight enough though I find this lig can have a tendency to squeak on all pieces if you`re not careful (maybe the outer part has stretched on mine:?) - I`m using this at the moment and playing around the squeak issue, far from ideal but the flexibility of the piece is addictive - I`m going to try a DIY plate under the reed like the BGs have to see if it helps . I`ll be gigging the Yani of course until the lig situation is resolved .

Sax.co show one pic for the light and dark,(the dark is the one in the p;ic) the light is two thinnish bands of leather across the reed wheres the dark is a full width band

The generic cheap metal 2 screw ligs barely fit the PPT (inner screw is on the edge of its thread) but doesn`t squeak and the rig sounds superb. these have the potential to badly scratch the piece unless careful.
 
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Looks like Pete has the answer,, didn`t spot this ! . looks like a Rovner Legacy

http://tamingthesaxophone.com/product/ligature-ppt

EDIT - I`m trying some mods to see what could be good .. I have a Chinese Fake BG Revelation for alto and I`ve removed the springy clamp thing - the lig now fits the PPT amazingly and should work like a Rovner dark , unlike a real BG, it`s a bit stretchy (prob why it goes on) so will give that a go ...... The main thing was to stick the springy clamp thing onto the Rovner light to see how that works , it can`t be worse and shoudl show how a revelation type lig would work
 
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The Rovner Light with the Revelation clamp thing fitted seems to be working well - I can see why a Dark would have problems fitting as the Light's two bands accommodate for the severe taper , you can see this when the light is fitted .... the Clamp thing from the Rev is holding the reed far better than the Light ever did and the squeaks have gone bar the odd "unfamiliar with the piece" ones here and there ..... the lig is more than bright enough and is allowing the large bore Jupiter 789 to bellow like a rutting moose .. the piece (with a 2 reed on anyway) can play quiet and smoochy right down to the bell notes, even on the Taiwanese terror
 

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I have just won off ebay A copy of the F. Louis Lig, from Poland 26 incl Postage.
But am wondering if I really need it. I made my own Lig today from a plastic material that when boiled is similar to plasticene, but when cooled, turns into a hard plastic.and it works very well, on the tapered PPT.
The reed is held fast, in fact I cant see any traditional lig doing a better job.and wont scratch the Mouthpiece also.
 

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Same here with my Crossbred Rovner light / Fake BG Revelation - it combines the light`s two bands to combat the taper issue with the Rev`s reedholding ability ..

After reading the old thread,. some of which dates from 2010, I don`t understand why the design wasn`t changed back then to a more orthadox HR body taper given the grief many seem to have with it regarding ligs . Also Pete mentions a cheapo APC metal lig which works which was at the time given with the piece, where can we buy this now ? , a standard generic one won`t screw on satisfactorily
 

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Same here with my Crossbred Rovner light / Fake BG Revelation - it combines the light`s two bands to combat the taper issue with the Rev`s reedholding ability ..

After reading the old thread,. some of which dates from 2010, I don`t understand why the design wasn`t changed back then to a more orthadox HR body taper given the grief many seem to have with it regarding ligs . Also Pete mentions a cheapo APC metal lig which works which was at the time given with the piece, where can we buy this now ? , a standard generic one won`t screw on satisfactorily

JJ has a lig that is a collar design with an internal taper for his straight metal MP,s. So the further you push the collar on, the tighter it gets. The taper on the PPT is used to an advantage with this plastic lig I made. In fact the taper of the PPT is the same shape as the internal taper of my plastic lig. So even better contact with lig and MP. There is also a slight indentation of the reed shape inside the tapered cylinder of the lig. Which is formed when the soft plastic is moulded around the PPT.
 

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yeah, I think you`ve invented a new kind of lig there James - the HUGGER - I have a brass JJ one for alto and don `t like them much as they can score the mouthpiece , the JamesMac HUGGER certainly won`t .. This along with the Revlight are probably the two only specific Onyxite ligs in existance - LOL

Pics of the Revlight - making the most of the Rovner's dual band fitment but with the security of the fake Revelation`s reed press plate

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Revlight-2.JPG
 

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LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! ...........

Amazing when you`re desperate to not have to spend out on an expensive ligature too (helps being born well north of Hadrians wall ) .. that Rovner Light has been in the Lig-bin for eons because of its sound dulling squeak prone tendencies and the Fake BG Alto lig was in there too - got not one but TWO PPT friendly ligs from them - the Clamp-free alto Fake BG fits the PPT too amazingly and gives a dark sound option :) .
 

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