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Learning Perfect Pitch - do you have it?

Mamos

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I have not tried either of the programs for the same reason as stated in my post about mini sites

I am doing some ear training which I hope will allow me to recognise pitches and intervals.

I did find and interesting one the other day which uses the interval of the initial two notes of popular popular songs to help you identify intervals

It is quite good and it is free http://trainear.com/

Scroll down a little to watch the demo video

The bloke is a bit of a nutter

mamos
 
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half diminished

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Yeh, looked at the link and I've used stuff like this before. I wondered (hoped) that someone had tried either course or had some knowledge of them but obviously no interest or any replies other than yours. Ah well........

Thanks for the link though.
 

Mamos

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Maybe we should contact them about doing an evaluation for this site.

It would be good advertising for them if they turn out to be good

mamos
 

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I have tried 'Absolute Pitch Power'. Yeah it really works. The trick is to have the discipline (and time) to be able to do it every day for 50 days. It uses neuro-linguistic programming and is really trippy, but it works.

Essentially the course takes you through a journey, that you design yourself. For each note you make up a situation, location, colour, taste, smell, emotion, sensation and actively imagine this location and all other sensations while listening to the note in different octaves and on different instruments. You also have your screen flashing in that notes colour at an Alpha-state strobe.

Essentially you are hypnotising yourself with triggers. Hence after a while you hear the note, say C, and you immediately are transported to your location for that note, see the colour etc etc and hence can identify the note. After a while of this apparently, I didn't get this far, you just know which note it is automatically without all the sensory stuff.

While I was doing the course I used real sensory input where possible.

So for 'D' - I was sitting infront of my screen, in a relaxed state, the screen flashing yellow at an alpha-state rate, I was imagining being at a beach I know, the yellow sun beating down, the sand, the grass roofs all yellow. Actually eating Lemon sorbet and sniffing citronella, I imagined the feeling of the sand in my hands and the heat of the sun etc etc. I did exactly the same process each day I reviewed 'D'. Sure enough when I imagine that environment now, I can hum a 'D'.

I only did C, D, E, F (you don't want to know what I was imagining for 'F', well at least it can't be written here>:).

I really want to get back into it. If you stop for a couple of days its hard to go back.

Cheers,
Alan
 

Mamos

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I just noticed another little thing that has made me a tad suspicious

I found that page whilst searching on google and going back to the search page I notice it was a sponsored link.

Why would you pay to advertise a bad review?

mamos
 

Chris98

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I'm not sure what to make of all this

I found this review by a respected musician (supposedly) and make of it what you will

Perfect Pitch Scam - Review: Pure Pitch by Ryan Cameron - Pitch Master Pro

The David Lucas Burge course does seem to have been around for a while

mamos
Well he holds no punches back!

I'm sure there are some real gems out there that truly help, but finding them is hard. In the very nature of the thing, the student is the last person usually to be able to judge the validity of the claims and the likeliness of success.

I've been weary of NLP (Nero Linguistic Programming) since I was unfortunate enough to sit through several excruciating sessions at work that made me feel embarrassed, frustrated and wondering if I was the only one not getting it! But I don't want to say all NLP is bad, I’m sure in the right way delivered by the right person it can work but it’s a very personal thing.

Back on subject, I have a book I’ve yet to look at properly, actually I have several books that I’ve yet to look at properly, but I digress, it’s Jamey Aebersold’s ‘Jazz Ear Training’ it has two CD’s and flicking through the pages I have no idea what you do with it so I’ll need to read the instructions. If you like, I’ll start working though it tonight and report back.

The reason I mention the book is that it’s probably cheaper than the online courses and is from someone that is regarded by professional musicians.

All the best,

Chris.
 
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Chris

It's a toughie and you are probably right. Not sure about how useful the Abersold book would be for me.

What I have started doing is I have some recordings of scales being played on a tenor which I listen to a lot and am doing more and more listening/transcribing and playing by ear.

I've surprised myself a couple of times when being able to play a couple of tunes I know just from memory/by ear and then trying in several other keys. Ab major and Db major are always a bit of a challenge. ;}

Xmas carols is a good one and nursery rhymes and of course happy birthday. I reckon I'll stick with these for a while.

I'm also now (at last) getting a feel for major, minor, dorian minor, dominant 7th and even half diminished :w00t: scale sounds.

Just love that melodic minor sound too.

Need to check out the pentatonic and whole tone scales soon. Oh, so much to do and so little time............
 

Chris98

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Hi Ian,

I've yet to really look at the Abersold book, I did my Grade 5 on Wednesday and with getting ready for that and worrying about it I found I had little time to look at much else! I'll endeavor to look at it over the weekend.

I keep meaning to do some transcribing as I think it is an incredibly useful skill and bound to help develop your ear.

I don't know if you have Kellie Santin's 'Creative Saxophone - Workbook' but at the back there are some transcription exercises and the answers, she also says if you've not transcribed before try things like Miles Davis' trumpet solo on 'So What' from 'Kind of Blue'

Take care,

Chris
 
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Chris98

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Cool......... how did it go and when will you get the results? Was it Jazz grade?
Hi Ian,

I hope to put up a post about it on my diary thread over the weekend and with luck I'll get a bit more information about how it went tomorrow during my lesson.

Take care,

Chris
 
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