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Just the Two of us

Koen88

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Hey everybody,

my first post in this section of the café, but here goes.

I recorded a full cover of Just the two of us.. on Tenor and Alto (the two of me/koen) Well actually the tenor isnt mine. mine's in the shop since last night so I've only had this sax for 16 hrs when I started recording this afternoon. I put the original oil drum solo in it, bacause I like oil drum solo's, the transition between the oil drum and the end solo is a bit rough but I hope my improv makes up for it.

regards

Koen

https://soundcloud.com/koen-bidlot/just-the-two-of-koen
 
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Chris

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Koen, you should post more often. Enjoyed that, thanks..

Chris...
 

Koen88

Sax Drinker / Beer player
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Koen, you should post more often. Enjoyed that, thanks..

Chris...

Hi Chris Thank you! I would post more often if I had the time, but as a student its hard to make time for such projects. I'm in 2 party/coverbands a light music band and more allready.. so it gets quite busy some time but I must admit this was a lot of fun to do!
 
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daveysaxboy

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Good to see ya posting your stuff.Keep it going.Fine job you done there.Grover is 1 of my all time best players.I hear a blow by him and i know its him.He had is own thing going on for sure.
 

Wade Cornell

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Nice solid playing. I like the way you don't hold back with the last section being especially good.
 

Koen88

Sax Drinker / Beer player
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Good to see ya posting your stuff.Keep it going.Fine job you done there.Grover is 1 of my all time best players.I hear a blow by him and i know its him.He had is own thing going on for sure.

yeah Grover is one of my favorites too, just love his sound!
 

Koen88

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Yea i think he had that kind of lazy,very smooth way of phrasing his lines thats just magic.

couldnt agree more.. I also like that he sometimes picks some lines of the backing up an play`s a measure a long and pulls it forward so to speak, like in winelight.. Or the transition from oil drum solo to sax solo in Just the Two of us.
 

Mike

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Hi Koen, I think for the time you do have available you are making good use of that time. That's all we can do when life presents
it's demands.
Sure, you have real potential. I hear it in your sound. I also hear it in your inflections.
One important and critical aspect of your playing is that you have a good sense for rhythm, even at your stage of development. Rhythm is by far the most important aspect in being a musician.
You get that, then everything else will follow. I hear all the time how we should focus our tone on holding long tones, which is important.
What I hardly see is the focus that should be placed on rhythm. It seems to be an after thought in relation to improvisation, which demands rhythm, as ALL forms of music. It's intrinsic to music!

Always practice with a metronome when time is available to you. Not fast paced but at moderate speed and then progress when you feel you're ready for it. Trust me....get rhythm down and it will embellish everything you play! Without it, everything else suffers.

Yeah, real potential my friend! What impressed me most was your rhythm!
 

Koen88

Sax Drinker / Beer player
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Netherlands
Hi Koen, I think for the time you do have available you are making good use of that time. That's all we can do when life presents
it's demands.
Sure, you have real potential. I hear it in your sound. I also hear it in your inflections.
One important and critical aspect of your playing is that you have a good sense for rhythm, even at your stage of development. Rhythm is by far the most important aspect in being a musician.
You get that, then everything else will follow. I hear all the time how we should focus our tone on holding long tones, which is important.
What I hardly see is the focus that should be placed on rhythm. It seems to be an after thought in relation to improvisation, which demands rhythm, as ALL forms of music. It's intrinsic to music!

Always practice with a metronome when time is available to you. Not fast paced but at moderate speed and then progress when you feel you're ready for it. Trust me....get rhythm down and it will embellish everything you play! Without it, everything else suffers.

Yeah, real potential my friend! What impressed me most was your rhythm!

Hi Mike,

never expected to get a compliment on my sence of rythm! But I feel like I have to clear up/define some of the assumptions you made.

I've been "playing" alto sax for 12 years or so now. But I really started playing about a year or 4 ago. A lot of people around me just play the music with their windband and don't have any interest in getting better or doing stuff for yourself etc. so after being a "dorment" saxophone player for about 8 years I got the fever again and noticed that I could have a lot more fun playing sax!

And I'm not a music student (if you assumed that) I'm studying for my engineering Bachelor, which is.. not easy (to say the least). So trying to keep my grades up and getting some playing hours is (besides bands) hard.

What can explain the rythm feeling could be that I grew up in a musical household (son of a guitar teacher) and started playing recorder at 8, followed by 1 year clarinet and then on to sax. Also I transcribe a lot of music for different coverbands, and that really helps your ear, sight reading, and appearently rythm I guess..

so I'm definitely still a developing saxophone player (and allways will be for that matter) but maybe not the kind you thought.

still.. never expected to get a compliment on my rythm... Thanks!
 

Mike

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Well, rhythm is the element I listen for, especially when it's an up and coming musician to hear that potential.
If the rhythm is good it's easier for me to hear everything else. If the rhythm isn't good everything gets compromised.
 

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