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dooce

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I've been looking to buy a relatively cheapie alto on ebay for a couple of weeks and have put out some tentative bids on a few - one of which I won, to my immense surprise.

A John Packer, for 53 quid! I know nothing more than that till I get my hands on it, but JP stuff seems to have a decent reputation for basic instruments - my teacher plays one of their baris and rates it very highly. So we'll see what's in the box at the weekend.....
 

AndyG

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Nice one.....at that price it's got to be a bargain even if it does need anything to get it sorted. :welldone
 

jonf

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Fifty three quid? ****ing ****! Amazing, congratulations on your good fortune. Even if it needs a tweak that's a bargain. If you don't like it you'll easily sell it at a profit, if you put together a decent advert.

Nice one.

Jon
 

dooce

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Well, Dooce, what's it like?
Don't know yet! The seller won't post and as it's in Peckham, wrong side of London for me, I can't get down to collect it till a week Saturday. I just hope it's not being sold by Trotters Independent Trading Co, given its location.....
 

AndyG

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Don't know yet! The seller won't post and as it's in Peckham, wrong side of London for me, I can't get down to collect it till a week Saturday. I just hope it's not being sold by Trotters Independent Trading Co, given its location.....
Sax will probably be ok, but I would stay clear if while youre there he starts trying to sell you a watch....or a doll :)))
 

dooce

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Picked it up today - turns out it's not a John Packer at all, it's an Amati AAS21 - does that ring any bells with anyone? It is obviously a student instrument, but is solid and has a reasonable action. Good condition, played straight away, dodgy low C# pad and one missing key pearl are the only things I can find wrong with it. Case has taken a bit of a kicking as well. A bit of Brasso, and it's starting to look lovely! A good 53 quids worth. Still quite good value even if you factor in the £30 I spent on diesel collecting it.......
 

kevgermany

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Amati are Czech saxes, the firm grew out of the pre war german/czech firms in Kraslice (Graslitz is the German name), which were all nationalised by the post war communist government. :w00t: No name brands like Kohlert & Keilwerth. ;}

Can't remember when, but relatively recently they adopted a numbering system similar to Yamaha - Probably in the 90s, but I'm not really sure. Will see if I can find a serial number chart.
 

dooce

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There's some more info here. http://cafesaxophone.com/showthread.php?1061-Amati-Kraslice-Alto

Looks as if the serial number charts aren't published. However one of the german sax forums has a post saying that guys who email Amati get produciton dates from the serial number. Looks from Thom's post as if your sax is relatively new.
Thanks for that link Kev - my alto is the same series then as Taz's tenor - his is ATS21, mine is AAS21 - the serial number is even quite close to his so they are probably a similar vintage. Having played Taz's beast and knowing how he rates it, I is well chuffed!
 

jonf

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So, Bill. Cost = £83 collected, and it needs a pearl and a pad. Say a fiver to sort out yourself, or £15 to pay someone else to do it. That has to be a bargain, andy decent-playing sax for under a hundred has to be a great deal. well done.

Jon
 

kevgermany

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I get the feeling that the Amati's are under-rated, not that I've played one. Certainly they had quality issues in the past, but I think they sorted them out a while ago.
 

dooce

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Just had a very fulfilling afternoon - took the sax apart (first time I have ever tried this with a sax), cleaned it, polished, and put it all back again.

What did I learn from this? 1 - how simple a sax mechanism is, despite looking so fearsomely complicated; 2 - this is a nice bit of engineering. Staggeringly, it all worked when I got it re-assembled, and now looks a little cracker.....

I found a Yamaha 6 mp knocking around, and it sounded great. I reckon any problems with it, I can sort with suitable bits of cork packing - the pad I though was dodgy just isn't sitting tight enough. A thoroughly satisfying couple of days.
 

Taz

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Nice one Bill, it sounds like you got yourself a right little corker! I emailed Amati with the serial number and they told me mine was made in 1960. amati@amati.cz is the address you need. I'll be interested in seeing and hearing the old girl too.
 
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