Wade Cornell
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Here's an uncomfortable question: Why do you want to lean "standards"? I know that this is generally what is force fed to new players, but it's time to question why. Let's go back to when mainstream (playing standards) became popular. It's the 1950s, big bands are winding down as they are too expensive and generally a sound associated with the past (last generation...the war's music). Improvisation was, up until then, a guy in the band standing up and doing a short solo, that was often written/memorized. It was also primarily dance music.
The novelty to come out of that background was small groups (cheaper to hire for clubs) that wanted to play mostly improvised music for clubs/bars that didn't have big dance floors for dancing. They were clever enough to play popular music that everybody would recognize so that the audience could hear those "oh so clever" variations on tunes that everybody knew.
Fast forward 60 + years and you have new players being told to learn "standards"...which = tunes that nobody knows unless you are studying jazz. The method of teaching is based on copying and playing memorized riffs and arpeggios that are cut and pasted to fit "the changes". The object is to become a proficient technician and show off your technique in copying any number of dead heroes. How many audiences want to go see someone who is just trying to TAKE admiration/approval? Most would rather go see someone who GIVES the audience an performance/experience. It's like going to see the world's fastest typist. It obviously took a lot of work for them to become that, but if what they type is mundane or simply copying, how long will you want to watch their performance?
As a person who lived through that period, and enjoyed the jazz of the time, I can say that none of those players wanted to sound like someone from 60 years before their time. They were going where none had gone before, which made it exciting. Even though I lived through that era, and know those tunes, do I want to hear someone trying to sound like Coltrane? No thank you. The arts and music are a continuum, they happen in time with a natural movement forward. Copying the music and style of others is pretty much the same a "tribute bands". Ersatz nostalgia for some, but does it attract new audiences?
There is a general misconception that is foisted on sax players: Playing sax = sounding like someone from 60 years ago. The sax is an instrument capable of playing in any style of music. Tying it to a single style and time frame of the past, that currently has no audience, isn't necessarily a very smart thing to do. If that's the music that you love, and you don't care if there is ever an audience for your playing, then that's fine. There are tens of thousands of University jazz performance graduates who have no call for their playing style. If they try to stay in music they mostly become teachers of the same failed paradigm.
When does this stop? with you?
The novelty to come out of that background was small groups (cheaper to hire for clubs) that wanted to play mostly improvised music for clubs/bars that didn't have big dance floors for dancing. They were clever enough to play popular music that everybody would recognize so that the audience could hear those "oh so clever" variations on tunes that everybody knew.
Fast forward 60 + years and you have new players being told to learn "standards"...which = tunes that nobody knows unless you are studying jazz. The method of teaching is based on copying and playing memorized riffs and arpeggios that are cut and pasted to fit "the changes". The object is to become a proficient technician and show off your technique in copying any number of dead heroes. How many audiences want to go see someone who is just trying to TAKE admiration/approval? Most would rather go see someone who GIVES the audience an performance/experience. It's like going to see the world's fastest typist. It obviously took a lot of work for them to become that, but if what they type is mundane or simply copying, how long will you want to watch their performance?
As a person who lived through that period, and enjoyed the jazz of the time, I can say that none of those players wanted to sound like someone from 60 years before their time. They were going where none had gone before, which made it exciting. Even though I lived through that era, and know those tunes, do I want to hear someone trying to sound like Coltrane? No thank you. The arts and music are a continuum, they happen in time with a natural movement forward. Copying the music and style of others is pretty much the same a "tribute bands". Ersatz nostalgia for some, but does it attract new audiences?
There is a general misconception that is foisted on sax players: Playing sax = sounding like someone from 60 years ago. The sax is an instrument capable of playing in any style of music. Tying it to a single style and time frame of the past, that currently has no audience, isn't necessarily a very smart thing to do. If that's the music that you love, and you don't care if there is ever an audience for your playing, then that's fine. There are tens of thousands of University jazz performance graduates who have no call for their playing style. If they try to stay in music they mostly become teachers of the same failed paradigm.
When does this stop? with you?